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Realistically, how can Palestine gain it's freedom? (suppo.fi)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by bartolomeo@suppo.fi to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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We know what happens with peaceful protests, elections, and foreign interference (and more foreign interference), so how can Palestine gain it's freedom? Any positive ideas are welcome, because this situation is already a humanitarian crisis and is looking bleaker by the day.

Historical references are also valuable in this discussion, like slave revolts or the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, although hopefully in the case of Palestine a peaceful and successful outcome can be achieved, as opposed to some of the historical events above.

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[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Actually the opposite, it's a line of reasoning that supposes that no-one is really indigenous to anywhere in particular, thereby avoiding the good ol' extreme claims to sovereignity.

The history of Israel is littered with invasion anyway, so again, the idea of indigenous peoples at this point requires a reworking of the definition of 'indigenous' to people who have lived there for some time.

I'm expecting a bit of the ol' 'It was the Jew's to begin with' so I'll just say in advance there's no point in my continuing if that starts cropping up in replies.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

Actually the opposite, it’s a line of reasoning that supposes that no-one is really indigenous to anywhere in particular, thereby avoiding the good ol’ extreme claims to sovereignity.

... what? So you don't know what indigeneity is, so you just said, "fuck it, we're going to do away with the concept altogether so nobody has a right to live anywhere at all!"

I'm always baffled as to where you people think the Jews should be living.