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[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's 16 in Minnesota and 17 in New York, but 18 in North Dakota. Let's not act like a higher age of consent is directly tied to progressive policies.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Also, Washington state, a solidly blue state. But also, let’s not suggest being allowed to drive a death machine is less responsibility than having sex, drinking, or voting.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

North Dakota used to be quite progressive historically, just going the other way fast in the last few decades.

[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to have to press (x) to doubt. They have voted republican in every election since 1964. The only time the Republican candidate has gotten less than 50% of the vote during those years was when Ross Perot was splitting the Republican vote.

Maybe if you're going back past when the parties switched ideologies.

Fargo can be progressive, I know many of the bars there have historically been pretty LGBTQ friendly, but the rest of NoDak hasn't as been progressive.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We have a state bank, mill, highly subsidized education system, legacy fund, one of the most progressive prison systems, etc. The state is still full of coops and unions Alot of this is left over from the NPL days. You need to go back further. We also had democrats in the house and senate for decades. You are looking way too superficially. Things are completely different now.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

All? Some of that originated 60 years ago but is still going. The prison systems are newer, education subsidies are newer, the house and senate seats are newer, the legacy fund is newer...

[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

All that was over 60 years ago. Double your original Few Decades comment. North Dakota has been conservative for quite some time now.

Although in 1920 the age of consent was 18 in both North Dakota and Minnesota, or we could go back to 1880 when the age of consent was 10 (so wrong) in both North Dakota and Minnesota. /jk

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So those are more states I wouldn't expect much from either but it doesn't lessen the "ew" I feel for Alabama.