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The time for everyone to do that was 10 years ago. It's too late, Chromium won. I'm pretty sure even manifest v3 isn't going to kill it's market share when it finally drops.
I remember when this was the thought about Internet Explorer.
It's not too late. It will never be too late. Everyone that changes moves the market share needle. It doesn't mean Firefox is going to take over overnight, but it also doesn't mean it's pointless to suggest change.
I switched to Firefox when I switched to Linux. It's great. I remember when firefox/mozilla was the go-to browser. It could be again.
About the only thing that Chrome has probably "won" is Chromebooks. Because of their cheap price and walled garden they are great for kids, students, and the elderly. I agree that the pendulum will swing another way eventually as Google gets greedier with their product.
I guess, but chromium's reach goes far beyond what IE ever had. IE was Windows only and, back then, browsers weren't as big a part of everyone's daily life outside of work. Chromium is cross platform, has an infinitely better update cycle, and it's the default on Windows now. On PC, they've won. If Apple ever lets third-party browsers be actual browsers on iOS, they'll win there too. There's always hope but, after so many years of screaming at the sky, I had to start being realistic. I'll never stop using FF, but I've given up installing it on the machines I maintain for non-technical family and friends, it just gets overridden by MS trickery within a week, no matter what I tell people.
Chrome was released in 2008. It didn't take a market share right away. While a browser wasn't as big a part of daily life for a lot of people it was still a big part for a lot of people even outside of work.
On the other hand Windows had a much bigger market share for most of the time IE was the leading browser. It not being cross platform wasn't terribly relevant.
IE had a stranglehold on the internet. Even after chrome took over there were still a lot of sites that were only optimized/usable on IE. It is easily guilty of pretty much everything that is a modern complaint about chrome. You just didn't use it on a phone, but you also didn't have a handful of apps in place of a browser for various web sites/services.
No offense intended, but this is a bad take. There are plenty of alternatives to Chromium-based browsers. I haven't used one in a couple years at this point (apart from using Edge on servers for work purposes). In fact, ~39% of all mobile browsers are not Chrome. Chrome became popular because Google was seen as a 'good' company years ago, and Chrome was simpler, faster, and more powerful than other browsers at the time. It doesn't have any of these benefits any more.