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i had a geo metro that had greater range.
so confusing why this exists.
Just the one.
This is a frankly baffling comparison. I don't think I could think of 2 more different vehicles if I tried. Believe it or not, range is not the only thing people consider when purchasing a vehicle.
It's a truck, meant to tow and haul loads. If this is its range unladen then it's hauling range is 50% or less of this range. Meaning a full charge gets you 82-103 miles, which makes it nearly useless as the thing it's supposed to be: a truck.
Believe it or not, some people tow short distances, and some people use trucks as trucks without ever towing at all.
But Tesla specifically marketed this as a fully capable truck, which it is not. The F-150 Lightning gets the same range towing as the Cybertruck gets with no cargo.
Of course it is. Once again, range is not the only factor people consider when choosing a vehicle.
Ok, now try to do the things that trucks are typically used for in your geo metro. Towing, transporting construction tools and materials, etc.
I'm not defending Elon because I think the truck looks dumb and is over priced, but you gotta compare apples to apples.
i had a hitch on my 96 metro. so, yeah. and a geo metro totin a tiny trailer looks a hell of a lot less silly than that silver monstrosity
i do see your point. but i think it misses main the issue here; that this isnt a good vehicle let a lone truck.
You're still not comparing apples to apples. The people who actually need something like this (not this specifically because we both agree it's bad) would not be using it to tow just a small trailer. I agree the cyber truck is bad but the comparison still makes no sense.
If you believe them, Tesla says the cyber truck can have a 2500lb payload and tow 11000 lbs. That's a whole different ballgame than your geo metro which officially doesn't even have a towing capacity.
Some people actually use trucks for their intended purposes instead of a status symbol.
Can we stop pretending like literally everyone who owns a truck is just gonna use it to commute to the office and shuttle kids to soccer practice?
Like you do realize there are people who actually do need trucks? Ever driven by a construction site? Ever had a lawn service come through your neighborhood? Or an HVAC service tech? I mean the list goes on...
Yeah, but how long did it take you to refuel your metro? Surely it wasn’t faster than a few hours.
Or never if it gets to cold for a while.
Ego
Feels like gas mileage peaked in the early 90s. Geo metro was only 3 cyl and sipped gas. my lil 92 eclipse for over 45mpg highway, i don't even think it was rated that high.
The early 90s was mostly a perfect storm for fuel economy.
You had the computing power available to make use of CAD and develop more aerodynamic designs with less significant overhead (i.e., doing it by hand).
EFI technology had matured and carburetors were broadly defunct, allowing more efficient operation in a broader range of environments.
The US had updated its archaic lighting regulations to allow for more aerodynamic headlight shapes.
A lot of the safety technology that adds weight to modern cars either hadn’t been developed yet or hadn’t trickled down to the average vehicle.
So you had a confluence of more efficient engines, more aerodynamic vehicles, and cars that were still small and relatively lightweight.
well, i actually had both a '92 3ycl (suzuki engine) and then later had a 4cyl monster metro. i think that was like a 96?
just dont turn on the ac
Haha! Same. My eclipse was only rated 90hp from the factory, and i bought it with 150k miles. Good thing it was a stick
Probably in the early '00s but I mean that's completely unsurprising considering the strides we've made in safety, comfort, and most importantly emissions since then.
I regularly get 43-46mpg highway with my 4 cylinder TLX, drops off like crazy atoms town though.
I agree that economy peaked In the 80’s-early 90’s, but if you take into account how much bigger, and heavier cars are today, we’re not that bad. Also, a lot of weight and size goes towards the superior crash safety in modern cars.