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[–] SloganLessons@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Communism entails the collective ownership and administration of all means of production and the absence of social classes, while socialism advocates for worker control over means of production within a democratic society, allowing for some individual ownership and social stratification.

[–] hamsteronvase@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In addition, there are different levels of socialism. "Some" individual ownership turns people off. "The State owns the house I worked so hard to pay off?" You can have full private ownership of your things AND have single-payer health care, top-tier public education, reining in predatory banks, etc. We want to be Norway, not Venezuela.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your government is directly responsible for Venezuela's instability. Your government's entire foreign policy is destabilizing different parts of the world to float the Dollar as the main currency and you the citizens benefit the most from it, this is why I cringe inwardly when Americans complain of Capitalism's adverse effects, if you enjoyed it while it was good, you must enjoy it while it gets bad.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The things is the path to one of the other begins the same, of course, paved with good intentions

[–] solarvector@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As opposed to being paved with bad intentions up front?

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Honesty or lie. Mmm a hard bargain

[–] SiyahGuraag@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with what you've said. That's how I saw it too. Communism is the last stage, while Socialism is a transition period, as a Communist friend once told me. P.S. WTF am I getting downvoted for asking a question?

[–] ToastyWaffles@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, votes don't mean anything here. Feel free to speak your mind :)