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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, that’ll at least going to earn her the respect and appreciation of every conservative voter, but it’s must not evil enough to pull votes from Trump. She needs to be even more sinister.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well, that’ll at least going to earn her the respect and appreciation of every conservative voter

It isn't, because this is table stakes. If anything, her status as a mother of a daughter will raise serious concerns that she'll backpeddle if her own daughter has an unwanted pregnancy or miscarriage.

That's the big hurdle that conservative women have. Voters just reflexively see them as more-liberal than their male peers, because the conservative mode of politics is inherently patriarchal. How can you be a True Believer when you're acting against your own best interests?

She needs to be even more sinister.

She needs to be a TV personality with 40 years of accumulated history and its simply too late for that to happen.

There's nothing Haley can do to turn her campaign around. She was doomed from day one, shy of Trump having a sudden cardiac event on the campaign trail. No matter how cruel she behaves, she'll always be seen as a conformer rather than the Real Deal because of who she is and where she comes from.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Let's face it: all GOP challengers this year are banking on Trump going behind bars or having a heart attack. Maybe, maybe, trying to get the VP nomination, but you don't do that in fascism by trying to be more popular than the boss.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

all GOP challengers this year are banking on Trump going behind bars or having a heart attack.

Vivek definitely. I think some of them were just campaigning to get a high enough profile to try again in 2028. Nikki Haley, more than the rest of them, feels like she's playing for the runner-up spot like McCain received in '00 and Romney managed in '08.

Maybe, maybe, trying to get the VP nomination

No way Trump's giving her the VP slot. She brings nothing to the ticket that Trump considers valuable. He'd sooner re-nominate Pence. There's a line out the door of people who endorsed Trump earlier in the election cycle who are going to be ahead of her on the short list.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Trump having a sudden cardiac event

So you're saying there's a chance...

Unlike the meme though, given Trump's general situation, that's not a crazy low chance.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don't wish too hard. Trump dying or being hospitalized on the campaign trail will definitely make him a martyr.

[–] Nerrad@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Just imagine the conspiracy theories...

[–] GasMeterCrasher@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

Serious question: What would happen if he became a martyr? They take over the capitol, the republican party goes full fascist, or nothing?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

So you’re saying there’s a chance…

I'm still holding out on The Year Of Four Presidents, in which Biden loses in November and has a cardiac event later that month. Then Kamala is sworn in for a meager two months. Then Trump is sworn in and, shortly thereafter, has his own heart attack. And then his VP becomes President. All within a 12 month period.