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[–] CherryClan@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I wouldn't say I disliked it but Harry Potter just seemed like an ordinary story with nothing special about it in terms of writing or plot to me. Made me wonder if I was missing something since it seems to have had a huge an impact on popular culture.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think a lot of it is being at a certain age. When you're young you're configured to see magic everywhere. The video games you played when you were a kid, the places you went, the stuff you read... it's all important. It's wide and magical. It has this quality that's not replicable. I talked with people about the games I played when I was about 10 years old, and they felt exactly the same way about the games they played when they were 10.

Sometimes it's true. The Lord of the Rings books are still magic as an adult (actually more so). But I had the exact same experience reading HP; it's fine. It's perfectly serviceable, but I think I missed reading it at the age where it would have triggered the pure magic response, so I don't get it the same way.

[–] CherryClan@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

I love this take- I think you're onto something

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A big aspect of it is likely nostalgia and the influence it had on many people who were learning to solidify their literacy. I think that's also why it is so hard for people to break from it as well today.

[–] CherryClan@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

Very true and I should at least appreciate the fact it made a bunch of people excited about reading :)

[–] Wooster@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m mostly in the same boat.

Hogarts was interesting to me. Clearly a lot of thought went into the primary setting and all the fantasy and non-Euclidean elements.

But the titular protagonist himself was almost surgically devoid of character. Harry Potter was not special. His parents were special. And as dysfunctional as his foster family was, they still had drives and personality.

Harry Potter, in the books I read, was not important to the plot in the slightest. The plot just happened around him.

[–] The1029@literature.cafe 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've never really thought about it like that, but have to agree with you. Harry is completely devoid of character. As someone who fell in love with reading/fantasy as a result of these books, I loved the wizarding world. I didn't really have any care for Harry, or even much for the story that he's a part of - just the setting, and the other characters.

I wonder if Harry's transparency makes it easy for a young reader to project their own personality onto him, and kind of 'roleplay' their way through the series? I think the fact that the wizarding world is 'bolted onto' reality facilitates this - it feels almost tangible. May explain why nostalgia is so high among this particular group - it was an experience, not just a story.

Does this make Rowling a genius? Or do her books just benefit from the side-effect of her writing a bad MC?

[–] Wooster@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

I would argue that offering fans a template goes miles towards to how… sandboxy the series becomes. (For want of a better term)

For Harry Potter, it was the whole academic experience. How you got admitted, the personality tests; things that enable a safe starting point and allow the fans to go in their own direction.

With Kingdom Hearts back in the day, it was Organization OCs with powers and weapons that followed a template. Similar with Steven Universe and minerals and weapons.

[–] redtree3@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

I came here to say HP too. The voice/writing style it's in is not for me, at least the first book. I couldn't get past the second chapter back when I tried to read it.