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The problem is that we don't have a good way to measure if something is humane. They observe, they see the victim not doing anything like thrashing about or screaming, they assume everything is okay.
But all that tells us is that the person is unable to show any suffering. Not that they're not suffering.
What we really need is to study where people get mostly suffocated by nitrogen, but then brought back, and ask them how it felt.
That's essentially what the rebreather problem demonstrates.
And we've known forever that it's CO2 that gives the sensation of suffocation.
It's why hyperventilating before freediving is so dangerous. People expel all the CO2 in their system to reduce the feeling of air starvation and pass out underwater without realizing they're about to drown.
Well thanks. That's a new horrifying fear to have.
Don't hyperventilate before freediving and it's not a problem.
There's actually a bunch of information on it from industrial accidents and workers not following protocols. Critics tend to ignore it because their goal is to sway public opinion against execution in general.
TBH, in theory I wouldn't be against execution but our justice system is SO fallible I don't trust it ever.
Uh, this has been done to a certain extent? Any person who almost suffocated by stupidly inhaling helium out of a balloon can tell you about their experience. It's usually them asking "What did just happen? Did I pass out?!"
Nitrogen isn't helium ofc. But yes, let's do that with nitrogen in a controlled setting.
It's been done, in industrial accidents and other cases, but helium is probably more common for average people to experience. Both gasses are inert (have no effect on our biology) and displace oxygen.
P.S. I believe there's even some companies that offer hypoxia training for pilots and mountain climbers using increased nitrogen instead of reduced pressure. (Such training helps pilots recognize the warning signs so they can activate supplementary oxygen.) This lets them do it without a special pressure chamber, and a quicker recovery to standard atmosphere if someone has a problem.
We breath in nitrogen 24/7. Air is about 78% nitrogen.