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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Army#Morale_and_motivations
Now there is also another bit where it acknowledges some were explicitly fighting to defend slavery. However since what those researchers are using is letters....
Only the wealthiest southerners could read and write, and if you were from the South and wealthy, it's a pretty safe bet your family owned slaves.
But the vast amount of southerners were too poor to ever afford slaves. So that greatly skews the sample.
But even the ones who explicitly stated they were fighting to keep slavery legal, the feds and Lincoln were adamant they weren't going to outlaw slavery on a federal level.
So those traitors who said they fought to keep slavery legal, were fighting to prevent something that wasn't going to happen. They just thought it would because the leaders of the Confederacy lied to them about it.
Just like the 1/6 traitors believed the reason they were attempting to overthrow the American government, was because they thought Biden stole an election.
Just because a conservative believes something, doesn't mean it's true.
I see nothing here of soldiers being lied to.
They weren't. Its just like today where they were steeped in propaganda. Thats no excuse. We should have crushed them after the war. Since we didn't we have had to repeatedly deal with the traitors.
Even now we should be crushing Texas instead of playing their games. We are responsible for enabling their abhorrent behavior.
Well, I can't think of a simpler way to explain it.
I'm sorry you can't understand, but You're doing that thing where you start replying to my other comments and wanting to have the same argument multiple times, and I just don't have the motivation or energy to help people who do that.
Your argument doesn't seem all that separated from the Nazi Nuremberg defense
"I was just following orders"
The world collectively decided that defense would not stand
Nope.
What I'm doing would be more like trying to understand why Germans fell for propaganda and fought for the nazis.
It doesn't excuse what they did.
But if we don't understand why they did it, how are we supposed to prevent a future generation from falling for the same shit?
Because, again, we just saw a group of conservatives attempt to overthrow the American government because they believed propaganda.
Don't you think that maybe, just maybe, we should try to prevent there from being another "next time"?
You don't think that's something that's important?
You should learn to read, then, like those poor confederates. You'd be better off with some literacy.
Then, by all means, link me to the part where they say they were lied to.
Literally linked and quoted above, and you're too fucking stupid to read. Many were manipulated or were not fighting over slavery specifically. That doesn't magically make the conflict not about slavery, it's just context that goes to explain how the south is so brainwashed about it. It's true, NOT because what the south believes today, but because of what literally happened.
Again, it's just nuanced context. It's not a claim about the war not revolving around slavery. Fucking learn to read.
Nowhere does it say they were lied to champ. Nice alt account btw.
Wrong on both accounts. Hilarious. Keep assuming things. It really proves how well you think through things.
That's rich. Seems like you're all over this thread whiteknighting for op(not suspicious at all). And you still haven't shown where it explicitly states that they were lied to.
ahaha I'm not whiteknighting for anyone, I'm just pushing back against morons who do not process nuance.
Still waiting.
You have the information. You choose not to process it. Thank you for failing, it's entertaining.
That's a sure way of saying idk wtf I'm talking about.
"Now there is also another bit where it acknowledges some were explicitly fighting to defend slavery. However since what those researchers are using is letters…"
You're really handwaving away what's called a primary source of information. Those letters are actually really important for understanding what was going on in the heads of the soldiers at that time. The fact that they were explicitly writing about the right to own slaves shows that they were aware of what explicit right they were fighting for.