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[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know this sounds crazy, but he could not sell them weapons. He is directly supporting what is happening there by doing so.

Call back carrier groups, stop selling weapons, and let them deal with their own fucking problems that they caused

[–] RandomPancake@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

By all means, elect Trump and see if he does any better with human rights.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It doesnt get much worse than death. Liberals will justify any and every possible action to defend the blue fascist by claiming the red one could be worse. What happened to 'push him left after the election'

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh, you're going to see just how much worse it can get.

Are you fucking kidding me?? You think this is as bad as it gets? Read a goddamn history book.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Liberals are not that good at projecting outcomes, everything they claimed would happen under Trump if he won 2020 has come true under Biden. So I'll take your projection with a grain of salt

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think left to your satisfaction would be little further than most everyone else wants him, tbf. lol You can't acknowledge any of the progress he's made though? Even like, a tiny bit?

Regarding Gaza, btw, they don't need our glide bombs to commit a genocide. There's a whole lot of ways to do an ethnic cleansing, so, you can't necessarily stop it just by stopping the weapons. It's not that simple.

We'd have to sanction them or something, that'd probably do it.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

acknowledge any of the progress he’s made though

No. Prior to Gaza, though Im very critical of him, I did acknowledge a few things. Once he prioritized additional money/weapons and refused a ceasefire while bypassing Congress to allocate more weapons, despite what Israel was doing, and pledging unwavering support. Any progress prior to that is irrelevant. Shipping containers had a higher priority than the lives of Palestinians,

they don’t need our glide bombs to commit a genocide

While true, without access to US weapons, including white phosphorous which is restricted under international humanitarian law, it would be much harder to accomplish.

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

I disagree, I think it would be easier. I think they'd probably starve them all. Nothing short of UN sanctions could stop them.

People call it a siege, but its not a real one. It could be. Humans require 2000 calories a day, roughly.

And WP is frequently used in smoke applications, where it is permitted. It's not completely banned. While I won't say they aren't misusing it to cause fear and suffering, it is a common tool employed by armies for use outside of deadly munitions.

At any rate, thanks for answering. I understand better.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean how many genocides did he do?

Fuck that stupid blowhard, but at least his genocides are only potential futures, Biden is locked in already at 1

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What a simply mornonic take. Trump literally tried to pull out of NATO, and he would kill support for Ukraine. There’s your genocide. Oh, and he wouldn’t handle the Palestine situation any differently, so make that 2.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, 0 actual genocides supported right?

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Did you forget him putting kids in cages? I would also argue that getting Roe v Wade overturned is going to lead to the deaths of many women. But no point in arguing with you since you can’t seem to admit what a danger to the world Trump will be.

[–] seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did you forget him putting kids in cages?

You mean the policy the Biden admin has continued to uphold and has considered making even more restrictive as a political negotiating tool? No, I remember quite well.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Biden continued that policy and I believe even increased it.

Trump is a fucking something, but Biden is not the messiah you pretend him to be.

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I don’t consider him a messiah by any means and would prefer a much more left-leaning candidate. That being said, I’m being realistic in that not voting for Biden is essentially helping Trump.