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Netflix enshittification will continue until morale improves (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 9 months ago by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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[-] stown@sedd.it 18 points 9 months ago

I get that "enshitification" is the hot new buzzword but cold we please give it a rest. Reading this community you start to think that people can't express that the Internet is not to their liking in any other way.

[-] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago

"Enshitification" does not mean "I don't like it". It is specifically about platforms that start out looking too good to be true and turn to shit when the user base is locked in. The term is generally used for cases where the decline in quality was pre-planned and not due to external factors. Using the same term each time is, in my opinion, an appropriate way to point out just how common this pattern is.

[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I think Dr CD outlined a specific arc that companies follow, but the term has been co-opted to mean any process that drives out competition before turning the screws on their customers. Did Netflix follow the three steps?

Netflix was certainly good to its subscribers 15 years ago.

Were they then good to their business customers (studios) at the cost of the users? I don't think they were ever good to studios.

Have they now clawed back surpluses for themselves? Abso-fuckin-lutely.

I think step 2 is the key to the original definition, and the one commenters often ignore. All companies burn cash to get started. All companies try to become a monopoly, and monetize everything once they do.

[-] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Aha I see what you're saying. It's possible that dr CD considered the second part to be crucial, but it doesn't seem that people who listened to his message felt the same way, myself included. I probably speak for a lot of people when I say we hadn't realized just how much these platforms are "subsidized" and how much damage that does to the entire market. So that part ended up being associated in our minds with the term enshittification.

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 9 months ago

Step 2 is doubly true. Because not only did they steal the studios users, and dent their profit margins being competitive, they also went out and became their own studio.

Out of survival in a way, but their brand is so strong they keep most of users despite any conversion rate Netflix's competitors have.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago

Yes, it is frequently misused, but not in this case.

[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 14 points 9 months ago

You're in the piracy sub. A large part of the conversation is going to be about the late-stage capitalism that is driving us to piracy.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

"Enshitification" means a service getting worse in order to charge their customers extra for a service similar to their previously good one. If we're using the word too much, it's because it's happening too much.

[-] stown@sedd.it -2 points 9 months ago

I'm fully aware of what the word means, but I'm sick of it being used so often. There are plenty of other words in the English language to describe the situation.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

It's a specific word for a specific situation. If you're seeing it too often for your liking, I suggest the problem is that there's too much enshitification.