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Every day there’s more big job cuts at tech and games companies. I’ve not seen anything explaining why they all seam to be at once like this. Is it coincidence or is there something driving all the job cuts?

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[–] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 52 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I actually think it’s just bandwagoning by a bunch of cowards.

We saw this same phenomenon early last year too: Facebook laid off a bunch of employees, then Apple announced the same, then Microsoft, then Google, then Salesforce, then the infamous Twitter layoffs.

I think big tech is so sensitive to negative press that they all just wait and lay off folks at the same time so no single company takes all the bad press.

It doesn’t even have to be Illuminati-level coordination, either. All it takes is for some exec at Tech Company B to see that Tech Company A is firing people. Then Tech Company B decides to clean house too. The cascade is just a bunch of morons deciding to hop on the “let’s fuck over our employees to help our balance sheet” train.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Apple did not announce any layoffs last year. It's been news worthy because some many of the other tech companies have had multiple rounds

[–] WebTheWitted@beehaw.org 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Definitely agree it's not an Illuminati cabal meeting in hoods and masks.

But it's not not that either - there's lots of overlap on boards of directors and VCs invested in these companies. They're in the same circles and probably play golf together. Or, they hang out on the tarmac before their Davos keynotes on saving the world.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I live in Silicon Valley and I've heard that there's a WhatsApp group with a bunch of "big tech" CEOs and CTOs in it and they chat and share memes with each other 👀

[–] WebTheWitted@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

"They're just like us!"

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

It's more devious than that. If company A lays off 1000 people due to "legitimate" reasons (e.g. twitter generally doing poorly), that's 1000 people looking for new jobs. Company B, C, and D can then take that as an opportunity to lay off 1000 people each that aren't immediately vital to the success of the company. Company A might not have the funds or desire to rehire right away, but the other three will slowly start building back up. You end up with 4000 people competing for 100 open positions. Many may not be willing to accept a pay cut, but some percentage will, and gradually the rest will be slowly starved down to accepting less pay.

Software engineering is notoriously a high paid career path, and executives at these companies hate that, so any opportunity they get to suppress wages, they'll jump on. Especially if you know every other big company is doing it to, so they won't be able to turn that into an advantage against you