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That only two states disqualified him from being on the ballot is a disgrace. Don't these officials from the other states swear to uphold The Constitution?
Unfortunately, as we have already seen within the Republican party, threats work! If you are a secretary of state right now, you have two choices:
A) upholding Article 14 sec 3 because Trump engaged in an insurrection and is disqualified from ever holding elected office. But by doing so you, your coworkers, and your friends and family will be having to endure constant protests, verbal abuse, and death threats for the foreseeable future
or
B) Not doing that, hoping that he loses again (as he should), and the crazy people mostly leave you alone.
Which one would you pick? The real answer is probably not as easy as simply following the law.
I know which one I hope I would choose, but I can't say for sure I would do it.
edited: because I was not paying enough attention and wrote the wrong job title. (oops)
The only people these hateful Nazi fucks will leave alone are the dead left in unmarked graves.
It is that simple, because with b), they will never truly leave you alone. With a) there is at least a chance it will get better. The consequences with a) however also include punishing all those people that propped him up and helped, as there are other laws and articles that have been broken and not prosecuted
How can you be this ignorant? Different states have different laws, you absolute buffoon. Note that the processes by which Colorado and Maine banned Trump from the ballot were wildly different - and neither one involved the state attorney general. Where the hell did you get the idea that some process involving attorneys general banning people from the ballot was legal in every state?
A lot of them are just waiting for the Supreme Court to do its thing.
While I agree with you in principle, in practice I feel everyone agreed it really only had to be one state. There was never a chance this didn’t go to the Supreme Court and rather then duplicating the effort everywhere, it will be decided there.
Now if the Supreme Court decides this is in fact up to the states, I would then expect significantly more states to take the steps to remove him knowing their ruling will stand.
Many states like Oregon are waiting for a decision to be made at the federal level for this case so that the country can try to interpret Amendment 14 Section 3 in a uniform way.
On this map, Red is successful case against Trump, turquoise is case pending, light blue is case withdrawn by plaintiff, dark blue is appeal pending, green is case dismissed. 32 states had cases against Trump, all of them going to the Supreme Court for similar reasons would be a big waste of time.
Note that in Minnesota the State Supreme Court specifically stated their ruling applies only to the primary.
Depending on SCOTUS it is entirely possible Trump could be removed from the general election ballot via another lawsuit filed after SCOTUS rules.
Primaries are run by the political parties and very few states have a law requiring/allowing their Sec of State to get involved.
Yes, but while I don't think he belongs on a ballot, I can also see the hesitation in hasty action. Whatever precedent is set here will affect generations of political fuckery. It's important to get this right and leave nothing to chance that someone gives him an out. Unfortunately that means long legal investigations and legal proceedings.