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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Unfortunately yes. These are the kind of people that make laws about social networks.

Shit like this is why I can't take the handwringing over Tiktok seriously. Yeah, their company work culture sucks, and social media in general sucks. But so much of the hate toward Tiktok is tinged with xenophobia that it's unreal.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As a network engineer, so many of the arguments for why tiktok is terrible are dismissed because of xenophobia. It's unreal, because it is blatantly obvious that it is just absolutely rummaging through your phone for every last bit of information it can steal about you.

I don't care what nationality the people are that are receiving it, there is no excuse for that shit and you need to get off tiktok.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What's your opinion on facebook and twitter?

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

From a network engineer perspective, facebook is probably more effective at stealing data, but steals 'less' (still a crapload) data than tiktok (seriously, you would not fucking BELIEVE how much data tiktok constantly sends to the servers). Plus, of course, all the data you give facebook, facebook gets. That said, it's sort of 6 of one, half dozen of another- just because tiktok can't find an actual use for some of the data it's got, doesn't mean it can't or won't later.

Twitter's app doesn't actually steal/exfiltrate all that much data, believe it or not. Most of their trackers and analytics are focused on your use of twitter itself. It's still ran by a psychopathic manchild, however, and they are still, in my opinion, stealing data from you.

Personally, my home wifi has all three blocked via DNS. None of them get my data.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

One is run by a psycho, the other by a guy who needs to get off the ketamine and find his big boy pants.

Now seriously: FB is more insidious in its tracking and targeted profiling (lawful evil). Twitter is just negligent and deliberately letting the crazies roam free (chaotic evil).

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Is this a real quote?!?!

Unfortunately yes.

This may seem like homer visiting the ceo of kwiki-mart, but really? I can't find anything online mentioning it. Do you have a timestamp or link?

This fits into the middle of the depressingly-plausible/unbelievably-stupid venn diagram and it's really doing my head in.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Shit like this is why I can't take the handwringing over Tiktok seriously. Yeah, their company work culture sucks, and social media in general sucks. But so much of the hate toward Tiktok is tinged with xenophobia that it's unreal.

Yeah, anytime someone says they want to go after TikTok but doesn't have anything to say about any other tech firm's creepiness I stop taking them seriously. We need broad generalizable rules that deal with social media, data brokers, and lots of other issues, but all a lot of people are interested in is finding an excuse to go after something foreign so they can stir up their racist shithead followers.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

also conservatives are mad kids can learn about the world and don't like them as a result so they want to institute multipronged censorship of school curricula, libraries and the internet