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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Teachers describe a deterioration in behaviour and attitudes that has proved to be fertile terrain for misogynistic influencers

“As soon as I mention feminism, you can feel the shift in the room; they’re shuffling in their seats.” Mike Nicholson holds workshops with teenage boys about the challenges of impending manhood. Standing up for the sisterhood, it seems, is the last thing on their minds.

When Nicholson says he is a feminist himself, “I can see them look at me, like, ‘I used to like you.’”

Once Nicholson, whose programme is called Progressive Masculinity, unpacks the fact that feminism means equal rights and opportunities for women, many of the boys with whom he works are won over.

“A lot of it is bred from misunderstanding and how the word is smeared,” he says.

But he is battling against what he calls a “dominance-based model” of masculinity. “These old-fashioned, regressive ideas are having a renaissance, through your masculinity influencers – your grifters, like Andrew Tate.”

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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

You are enabling them by talking out of your ass on their behalf. I mean, rigidly adhering to and strictly enforcing traditional gender roles is what feminism is all about, amirite?

When a man takes his child to the playground, and some mom there calls the cops on him for being near children while male, I suspect there's nothing about "traditional gender roles" going on here. But for a moment let's pretend there is. You're telling me that women are trying to gatekeep childcare in the same way men have tried to gatekeep, say, STEM jobs. Okay, why is it "That's their problem and they need to sort their shit out or else" when men do it, but "No we've got to go fix society together" when women do it? Is it because you're a god damned hypocrite?

I'm more likely to believe that, just as Republicans are told by their preachers that Democrats are baby eating evil demons, women are similarly told to believe men are all sexual predators. A man shows up and it's "okay, who's he here to rape?" If I were to ask you "Okay, what action does our innocent dad who's just taking his child out to play need to take to not have that happen to him?" Your response will almost certainly be "Oh I dunno, have you tried not being a rapist?" To which the reply will come back "Yep. I'm in my 36th year of not raping anyone. But I still get treated like this."

Naw man, women aren't responsible for how they think or act, ya gotta fix society. So, millennial dads have been stepping up, they're considerably more present in their children's lives than previous generations of men, way less likely to report having never changed a diaper, and they're treated like shit for it by women. This is not women's fault, it's "society."

I think it's society's fault that there are diaper changing stations in women's rooms but not men's rooms. That's society's fault, whatever agency is responsible for the ADA, that governs how wide bathroom doors have to be and how high light switches go above the floor needs to get on that shit.

What I have seen of feminism is it's okay for women to say "I miss when men died in wars" but it's not okay when men say "Get back in the kitchen." I've been often told - and NEVER shown - that feminism is about "equality." Which is why I ain't one. Feminists would rather have me as an enemy and a boogieman than an ally. I shall oblige.

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