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[โ€“] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'll see in the next few years\decades. Rushed to market, very suspect testing, no long term testing. All the hallmarks of below:

Quaaludes

Darvocet

Cylert

DES

Vioxx

All FDA approved and turned out to be not so good for you as long and short term studies proved.

Then you got Thalidomide that is safe but now on bothered to flip the analog to see if that was safe. And it wasn't, I grew up w/ Thalidomide babies.

Also Fen Phen

Dioxin / DDT

I can list these for days, its cheaper to settle. Why do you think they tried to bury the research data for 75 year? If its safe it should have been readily available...

[โ€“] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you explain what mRNA is?

[โ€“] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does that mean? What's dangerous about it?

[โ€“] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'll see... You don't try to bury your test data for 75 years is its "safe and effective"

[โ€“] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can you provide evidence of who "buried" test data?

Don't you think it's weird that you can't explain what mRNA is but are so convinced it's dangerous?

[โ€“] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/judge-scraps-75-year-timeline-for-fda-to-release-pfizer-vaccine-safety-data-giving-agency-eight-months

Not the hallmarks of a "safe and effective" company that has had the most lawsuits and fines levied against.

And I dont want to waste my time typing out 3 pages to educate you on mRNA, go look it up like I did. But this give a small overview on how its not "safe and effective":

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8611574/

The Washington Examiner is a right wing magazine that regularly fails fact checks. If you can't find it at a credible source it's probably not true.

The other article you linked is to an article in an Indian psychiatry publication that does not have any experimental data or methods in it, and concludes:

Notwithstanding the fallacies which emerge with the advent of the new-age mRNA vaccines, the hope it provides in overcoming a seemingly insurmountable and lethal pandemic largely eclipses most doubts about its credibility. All efforts should be made undertaken to vaccinate maximum number of people at the earliest.