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I see what you're trying to say. But I gotta ask tho: did "we all" actually, really agree on that?
Yes. We have all agreed to exchange tokens (which have little to no inherent value) for goods and services, in lieu of trading other goods and services directly.
All other mechanics surrounding money are up for debate, but for any society more advanced than the hunter-gatherer stage, some form of "money" is required to facilitate trade.
Why? Library economies are moneyless, and highly adaptive to technological progression and climate change.
How does a library handle consumables?
it would look more like a food bank than a library tbh, but the concept remains the same. This video is a much better primer on the topic in general
What are consumables in a library economy?
Who makes the consumables in a library economy? Why on earth would I farm for love of the game?
You don't want the librarian to starve, or the blacksmith.
Someone else will do it then, surely? I can just play video games and check things out permanently from the library and get free food from the farmer?
Maybe if you want to piss off the farmer....
You are forgetting that there is a component of anonymity that fiat currency provides transactions. You lose that in a social economy.
Money is "asocial".
Well the farmer has to share though, right? So what do I care if he's mad at me?
He doesn't have to.
So the farmer can arbitrarily decide who gets food?
Yeah
Just like in the existing capitalist economy, case managers decide who receives disability payments and insurance analysts decide who gets medical treatment. Who knew society means being at the whims of other people 🤡
Is a social economy, you can directly appeal to people with resources you want, as in "socialize".
Gotcha. What about people who the farmer has never met, but they come to him for food?
Man I don't know, why don't you go ask this hypothetical man in this hypothetical society? Don't be a dick if you expect to be welcomed.
I'm asking you because you're in here arguing for this moneyless, library society! I feel like if we can't answer super basic questions about how getting rid of something as universally important as currency would actually work, then maybe we haven't really thought it through.
Very interested to hear more though, particularly as someone who studied things like this and is now an economist who works in inflation.
It seems like you need a surrogate imagination at this point. Good luck.
If you ever use money to buy the thing with the price agreed upon, then yes, you agree on that. This is sovciv level post...
Every comment that correctly says that they are on some sovcit BS seems to be downvoted.
There's a significant difference between recognizing the irredeemable, systemic corruption of this economy, and believing no society or economy should exist ever.
The former wants a just, equitable society, and recognizes this is the opposite of that, and the latter just openly wishes they could shoot their way through life with impunity.
When you say "I never agreed to it" as a retort to a comment that boils down to "I think that money is real", you are either using the same logic and talking points of a Sovcit.
Maybe you are just wording things poorly, but you sound like a Sovcit.
Sovcits are gullible fools that think that saying incantations to police about moving vs travelling will somehow make them immune to the law. They generally have nothing to say about the application of money as they still attend jobs and bring home incomes.
I don't think you know what sovcit is. Money is intrinsically worthless. It's just a stand in for things that actually have worth.