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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The administration is clearly over Netanyahu, Blinken had some pretty strong comments on this week’s trip. He also met with Gantz, Eisenkot and Lapid so they’re clearly looking at the post-Netanyahu era.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The post-netanyahu era will look just like the netanyahu era, just like how US presidents will change but the military industrial complex marches along the same line.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Israeli history would say otherwise. When a leader is forced out, there is a change in government policy and position.

[–] adoth@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well not for the past 75 years. They have been ethnically cleansing Palestinians and building illegal settlements on Palestinian internationally recognised land for decades. Not to mention the continuous oppression of Palestinians under their occupation and many other horrors.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We can start with Golda Meir and the Yom Kippur War, in 1973. It was thought by Israelis that she was taken by surprise. Israelis waited until the shooting stopped and forced her out in favor of Rabin who made peace and signed the Oslo Accords. Which was his undoing since it was the reason given for his assassination. There are other examples.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was still a pretty shitty deal for Palestinians. Israel still kept control over their borders, air space, and waters. It didn't address the settlements, it was meant to undermine their attempt for a state, it didn't address refugees. And even though it was a terrible deal for Palestinians, it was still too much for the Israeli right-wing. They do not want peace or true Palestinian sovereignty, and never have for all those decades.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago

Peace is taken through iteration. The Camp David Accords cured some of that.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Hard agree. People want Biden to call for Netanyahu to get the Noreaga treatment. That's not how displomacy works.

But this will be the end for Netanyahu, if Israel is to have any credibility. America has work to do on this front right now, too: by making sure that fat orange fuck that wants open war with Iran doesn't get reelected, and end up killing tens of millions of people after the cascade of failed mid-east states that would follow.