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Hi everyone! Since I was absolutely fucked by Skiff (thank fuck I didn’t pay for it) I’m looking for a new email provider :) I’m not sure I like how proton is transforming into a full on suit, I only need email. Any other recommendations or is proton my only choice really?

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[–] darkmatternoodlecow@programming.dev 55 points 9 months ago (21 children)

A provider having more than 50 users and offering more than one service doesn't make them evil. Use Proton. They are the best, and they're not likely to disappear. If you intentionally seek out small services because you think being an underdog is some sort of privacy merit badge, you'll get "absolutely fucked" over and over again.

Also, you should consider paying for the products you use to encourage sane and user-friendly business models. But that's a different discussion altogether.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Proton = No SMTP/IMAP support.

[–] Tinnitus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can use Proton Mail Bridge to set up SMTP/IMAP with your email app of choice. Obviously, you’re still stuck with using the bridge app on your device in order to get it working.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Waiting for the day their business team devices the bridge is too much freedom you should get all locked-in.

[–] Tinnitus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If that were to happen, nothing is stopping users from exporting their emails elsewhere.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If that were to happen, nothing is stopping users from exporting their emails elsewhere.

Yet. You're delusional, nothing is stopping people at gmail to move to another providers, yet they stay. And trust me gmail has a much better export and supports IMAP.

[–] Tinnitus@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So your privacy-focused email provider recommendation is Gmail?

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Obviously not, but just don't push proton. They're a company that resorts to predatory tactics and has zero respect for their users.

For what's worth Lavabit (back before Snowden) had much higher standards than Proton when it comes to privacy and still supported open protocols like IMAP and SMTP. What Proton is doing is pushing for vendor lock-in at any possible point so you’re stuck with what they deem acceptable because it’s easier for them to build a service this way and makes more sense from a business / customer retention perspective.

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