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New to Linux? Ubuntu Isn’t Your Only Option (www.howtogeek.com)
submitted 9 months ago by Ninjazzon@infosec.pub to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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Ubuntu's popularity often makes it the default choice for new Linux users. But there are tons of other Linux operating systems that deserve your attention. As such, I've highlighted some Ubuntu alternatives so you can choose based on your needs and requirements—because conformity is boring.

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[–] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you have proof of Manjaros usual arguments being unrelated or false? The things I've read over the years seem like valid criticism.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There's generally three "arguments" that keep being quoted.

  1. There's the criticism about them messing up their website or the bug that DDoS'ed the AUR. While valid, it has nothing to do with the stability of the distro.
  2. There's the people who claim it "just broke" on them. This is people new to Linux who get bad advice and do things like switch to unstable, use non-LTS kernels, install drivers from AUR etc. and of course it breaks, as would any distro where you do foolish things. And if you said "it just broke" about any distro you'd get asked things like "what did you do" or "this kind of stuff is not for newbies". But it's cool to say it about Manjaro.
  3. There's the argument that Manjaro holding back Arch packages for 2 weeks breaks AUR, because when you try to compile an AUR package it might not find the super-new version of a library it needs. While this is technically possible, the chances of it happening are super small. AUR packages are often not that recent, some are years-old. Secondly, if this were such a common problem it would affect everybody on any Arch distro who didn't upgrade in 2 weeks – and it just doesn't.
[–] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I think it does. If you make the choice to poorly manage your distro's tools/website it shows that you aren't responsible enough to manage the distro. They also had the laptop purchasing issue.

I'm not saying every distro needs to be super organized and testing shit but they should be before I recommend it to someone. Especially when there are other Arch based distros that don't have the issues.

The newbie stuff is fair enough. I do think they get extra flak here because the distro was marked as Arch for noobs.

I don't think that would be the case. The AUR helper would pull the updated dependencies from the Arch repos which would not be available in Manjaro's repos

They're valid arguments and people should be informed about it mainly because of how it was recommended a lot for beginners.