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unless grandma was in the dust bowl, then she was just fucked (slrpnk.net)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net to c/memes@slrpnk.net

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Two thoughts on this meme - self-reliance is necessary, and self-reliance is not sufficient, because if capitalism destroys the climate your homestead goes with it.

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[–] Alto@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

100% no resources from anyone else self reliance? Sure

Otherwise? Solar panels exist.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just don't think it's worth pursuing for it's own end. There are some things it makes sense to do yourself, but for most things it costs way to much time for the small amount of security it gives.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You may not. I personally don't either. Doesn't change the fact that some people do, for a wide variety of reasons, and that's fine.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The post said it was necessary though. I'm fine with people working on self reliance if it makes them feel more secure, or just if they enjoy it or it gives them fulfillment. But I think relying on the social web of connections and commerce is fine.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think OP was meaning you have to be 100% self sufficient. I interpreted it more that you need community but you also need to know how to take care of yourself. How are you going to help your community if you can't help yourself. How is your community going to help you if they don't know how to do things. Local supply chains doesn't mean you're producing everything, it means it's coming from your community. Thats exactly how an untold amount of people survived the depression, communities banding together and taking care of each other.

Most homesteaders help our their neighbors if it's needed, and will receive help when they need it. They're not 100% isolated on their own.

E: Why're y'all downvoting that guy. Not like they were being a dick or anything.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago

This is exactly what I meant :)