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according to @Custoslibera’s post

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[-] lemmingrad@thelemmy.club 5 points 8 months ago

Well, the said liberals have defunded schools, hospitals, trains, retirement and anyknd of welfare here in the name of "being opened to new ideas", so it's a bit more than semantics. Sorry, I don't want to be associated with liberalism.

Liberal bourgeois are a significant political force since the French revolution - and always opposed people. It is and always was about the freedom of industry barrons and nothing else.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 3 points 8 months ago

Liberal ≠ liberalism. I've had to explain this so many damn times in this thread it's beginning to make me nutty.

Look at the definition above. Those are leftist ideals, very different from those who are American Liberalism fanatics.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

For someone who's chief complaint is "leftists are really bad at communicating our ideas", you might want to sit back and really think about what you're doing right now.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 8 months ago

The irony is palpable lol.

It's my fault for not understanding that using that term online is not going to be understood how I intended it, based on how it has been defined for me (Even when I showed the dictionary definition)

Though it is even more funny that so many people cannot accept that a word has more than one term, and based on how I used it in context, it actually does mean how I intended it.

In any case, I really don't want to discuss the definition further. Hopefully people can understand what I meant in context, even if the definition they are familiar with, is different.

[-] lemmingrad@thelemmy.club 1 points 8 months ago

I do understand (and I am sure you mean well, not attacking you as a person). But the confusion isn't just a detail here, it's inherent to what you're saying. Look up what happened in Berlin in 1933, for example. Liberal conciliating attitude paved the way to nazism.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 8 months ago

Do you mean liberal as in how I defined it in my post above? Or how others have meant it, as in Libertarian/Liberalism?

[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Liberal ≠ liberalism. I’ve had to explain this so many damn times in this thread it’s beginning to make me nutty.

It's because you're using liberal as in, "wow that was a really liberal amount of gravy," synonymously with liberal as in, "a supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 1 points 8 months ago

Hey man, I don't fuck with gravy, I'm vegan. That's how leftist and liberal I am.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

You know you can make gravy from vegetable stock, right?

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