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Since Broadcom's $61 billion acquisition of VMware closed in November 2023, Broadcom has been charging ahead with major changes to the company's personnel and products. In December, Broadcom began laying off thousands of employees and stopped selling perpetually licensed versions of VMware products, pushing its customers toward more stable and lucrative software subscriptions instead. In January, it ended its partner programs, potentially disrupting sales and service for many users of its products.

This week, Broadcom is making a change that is smaller in scale but possibly more relevant for home users of its products: The free version of VMware's vSphere Hypervisor, also known as ESXi, is being discontinued.

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[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 50 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You are either going all in with VMware or you're dead to them. Full suite or nothing, take your pick.

[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The moment that broadcom bought them the writing was on the wall. Many people have already jumped ship.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

A lot of people can't jump ship, at least not within a year or two.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've got a client who is currently a vmWare shop that (along with moving datacenters) is migrating to hyper-v when they rebuild.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope you mean Azure Stack HCI, seeing how Hyper-V 2019 is the end of the line.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do. we've already deployed it internally once, and will be deploying additional clusters over the coming year.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How do you like it so far? I've got a few customers interested.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's alright, but it really isn't my favorite. We spun up the cluster using professional support services from our vendor and it was rocky af, and the built in dashboard reporting is worthless if you want to know what's been provisioned instead of straight utilization. Alerting has been another struggle for us as well.

I'm sure it would work better when more integrated with azure, but for our 100% local workload it leaves a lot to be desired. But thankfully since it's windows based and manageable with powershell I was able to write a custom report to surface the metrics my teams and management care about.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Perhaps I'll try it out for a while before making such a huge commitme.. oh, i see...

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

For the cost, SMB is going to walk away. There are millions of SMB's.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

SMBs are not the target. Companies with a sizeable vSAN investment, huge amounts of VMware based automation and the fortune 1000 are. MSRP on the cheap license is going to be around $275/core, minimum 16 cores per socket.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And a potential 90% discount for big customers?

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Shockingly, no.

[–] signalsayge@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Probably not that deep. I've heard there are definitely discounts. That doesn't count for much though when it still increases your cost 6x.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

That's simply short sighted.

So they ignore the Fortune 1000+1 (the up-and-coming 1000). They also stop providing a learning/familiarity path.

I'm already seeing SMBs looking at KVM, Proxmox, Xen, etc. When these young engineers/managers/architects grow and move to Enterprise, what are they going to recommend when VMware is $300/core?

I'm all for (as in I push) recognizing the value of (even expensive) licensing when it reduces engineering costs and complexity, but that's what I'd call a "metric shitload".

A mid-size business could easily justify transitioning to just about any other VM solution when faced with that kind of increase. One 16-core host is now $5k in licensing, practically doubling the cost - and that's an annual cost for years - saddling "future IT" with that cost that can now no longer be invested elsewhere.

Now imagine you have 10 such boxes.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

They are planning to tolerate losing 95% of their customers. Of about 100,000 customers, they only care about 600 of them much, and about 6 thousand kind of, if they want to stick around, but not too much. The rest are fully expected to bail.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/30/broadcom_strategy_vmware_customer_impact/