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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well usually more people means a higher bill, more people is more work. Lots of places even just add gratuity to the bill once a group size is large enough.

But tipping is dumb, and working in the service industry sucks... I have no easy solutions.

[–] Sprawlie@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I have no easy solutions.

There's an easy one that could be legislated tomorrow by any states.

Raise minimum wages and enforce it throughout ALL workplaces, including wait staff. Nobody should be earning less than a living wage just because they're restaraunt staff.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nobody would work in a restaurant for minimum wage. Full stop. It's a shit job.

That's the secret nobody in the industry wants to tell you. They make way more than minimum wage on good nights. You could come away at $25-30/hr on a Friday night.

[–] Sprawlie@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Absolutely. it's a bad precedent.

Minimum wage staff still get tips though. I still tip here now that it's mandatory they get paid min wage. Overall, means that they make more than before they were earning min wage as well.

it's a big win. They ge ta living wage doing their jobs and they get bonuses in tips on top of their living wage instead of relying upon it.

[–] Tremble@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which is what workers at McDonald’s in other countries make per hour, not including benefits. Oh, and the food is cheaper than in the states too.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_minimum_wage

There are exactly 0 countries on this list that are above $18 per hour. You for some reason thing that wait staff is getting 25-30...

Luxemburg and Australia are among the highest on the list...

Luxemburg...https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/McDonald-s-Luxembourg-Salaries-EI_IE432.0,10_IL.11,21_IM1092.htm
Australia... https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/McDonald-s-Sydney-Salaries-EI_IE432.0,10_IL.11,17_IM962.htm

You're wrong or lying. Either way... doesn't help your case.

[–] Vrtrx@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

List is a bit outdated. Minimum wage in Germany is 12,41€ not 12€. Can't say how outdated the other entries are though. But that list still doesn't disprove the statement above. While it could be seen as unlikely there is no rule out there that fast food employees have to make minimum wage. I wouldn't work at a fast food place for minimum wage. I make minimum wage delivering newspapers on 2 days. I would expect a fast food employee to make more. Haven't seen a recruitment ad recently because I don't often go to fast food places (countable on 1 hand for a year) but I've seen grocery store recruitment ads for cashiers recently and they get more than minimum wage. I mean of course they do, as if someone would want to work as a cashier for exactly minimum wage

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Good thing o only used the list to find places that have high minimum wages then eh? The glassdoor numbers were the focus.

[–] cole@lemdro.id 1 points 10 months ago

Seattle's minimum wage is $16.28, but most restaurants seem to pay a fair bit more than that. Tipping is still rampant and has not been reduced. I don't think this solution would work

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Politics is one of those things that's easy when you say it, but much harder for you to do. But if that's easy for you to do, then please do it, for all our sakes.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I think the $20 vs $200 was a per person price. Like, if I order the steak for $50 and you order a grilled cheese sandwich for $8, we both got the same amount and quality of service, why do we tip differently?