But I don't remember them having a chart-topping song about murdering women in other countries they were not at war with, let alone women who were citizens of nations that are their own allies.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok, maybe not that blunt, but it was there. The blueprint and the absurd patriotism that wandered into hostile.

France was a US ally too. And the rhetoric coming out wasn't from some young men that make pop music but from grown men politicians.

US exceptionalism is one of the factors that has led us here, is what I'm saying.

[–] livus@kbin.social 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sure. The US appetite for supporting Israel is a major factor.

But renaming your chips is not as bad as publicly calls for assassinating people being at the top of your charts.

Israel are going full mask-off genocidal. There are "blueprints" in many other genocides.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you really think there weren't people in the US, prominent people, people in politics and in the media, calling for the death of innocent Muslims?

There were tons of public calls for some of the most brutal forms of reprisal. There were mass burnings of the Koran.

Did you miss the bit where the US invaded an entire country that had, it turns out, nothing to do with the terrorist attack at all?

I'm not saying any of what is happening in Israel is right. Far from it. But the idea that the US is somehow in a position of moral superiority here is wild.

You seem to be adopting a revisionist past where actually all they did was rename some fries in the cafeteria of their actual government.

The absolute torrent of global hatred that spewed out through the mainstream US media dwarfed what we are currently seeing from Israel, in terms of both soft insinuation and outright calls for death.

[–] livus@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago

But the idea that the US is somehow in a position of moral superiority here is wild.

It's not an idea I'm espousing. I think perhaps we're misunderstanding each other.