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Brazil’s Lula compares Israel’s war on Gaza with the Holocaust (www.aljazeera.com)

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[+] mellowheat@suppo.fi -27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This has become a sort of an edgelord thing to say in the geopolitical arena. It's obvious that if Israel and IDF was committing genocide with the same passion and planning as Hitler was doing with the jews, this situation would be completely different.

Additionally, Hamas doesn't declare how many of the killed people have been its fighters. They make it look like all of them are civilians. Are there even estimates about this?

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Well, we could probably take the 15000 or so children off the number, I would guess.

[+] mellowheat@suppo.fi -33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Perhaps you cannot. Amnesty International thinks Hamas uses children as soldiers: https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/mde150352004en.pdf

Given their religion (dying in holy war is considered a net positive for the individual) and demographics (half of the people are underage), it makes sense if they did.

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 14 points 8 months ago

What a leap of faith #justaskingquestions guesture towards a conclusion during a time where there is really no way to know.

Curb your bias.

[-] admin@lemmy.mohammadodeh.com 14 points 8 months ago

Given their religion

Definitely not an argument against a specific point, but a generalization against an entire population. Pretty much ad hominem on a large scale.

What a bigot with no actual argument. Begone now and thank you 😘

Bye

[+] mellowheat@suppo.fi -12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I offered an actual argument with actual data from an impartial source. You seem to have twisted my words in the second paragraph that were directed at Islamist terrorists to encompass a whole population.

Being angry at me for saying this does not help. Be angry at them who cynically employ these strategies. If you are a muslim yourself, you're at a much better position to make a positive change than I, being a western atheist, am.

Bye

Are you yogthos?

[-] admin@lemmy.mohammadodeh.com 6 points 8 months ago

Offering your opinion as an “actual argument with actual data” and a link to amnesty international does NOT constitute a coherent, well formed argument.

Reporting me with “uncivil comment” only shows your evasiveness to real discourse and that you will try to silence and put down anyone that disagrees with because you have no real argument to offer.

Good luck in the real world buddy, you’ll need it.

[-] mellowheat@suppo.fi -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Offering your opinion as an “actual argument with actual data” and a link to amnesty international does NOT constitute a coherent, well formed argument.

Give me your definition of a well-formed argument, then. I also haven't seen your argument based on data, just badmouthing me.

Uncivility is the reason I report things, not bad opinions or arguments. The latter is acceptable because correcting those that's the only way people can learn. Uncivility is unacceptable, since that only causes harm. If you don't see how you were uncivil, I suggest you go read your comment more carefully.

For instance

Good luck in the real world buddy, you’ll need it.

Uncivil. Do you see it now? Thanks to federation, you can imagine your own rules in your own server obviously, but it doesn't remove the fact of how you're behaving.

I would also call out how unclassy it is to make rude comments on regular threads with an "admin" account, but that's another one of your freedoms of running your own instance. But if you keep doing that, at some point other admins will start blocking your instance.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I don't think you can use a PDF from 2004 as evidence of anything Hamas is doing currently. They weren't even voted in to power until 2007.

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