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Carmakers are failing to deliver affordable electric cars, holding back EV adoption | Disproportionate focus of manufacturers on large SUVs and premium models means we have too few mass-market cars. (www.transportenvironment.org)
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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bummer. New Mid-range Electric SUVs are 7k usd in China. So most manufacturing seems to be transitioning out of China, but maybe they'll take over the auto industry next.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's pretty interesting to look at the options of Chinese EVs for the price. Even considering that it could cost up to $3k to ship a car from China to the USA privately, and the 27% tariff, it's still pretty damn cheap compared to most EV options in the USA. You could possibly have a brand new electric SUV for about $12k

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

Not a chance. Donut media tried to purchase one of those 2k$ electric trucks from China. The fees associated with shipping it here brought the price north of 10k if I recall correctly. I’ll search for it and come back.

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yRG0Wai4sR0

Sorry about the YouTube link (if it irks you), on mobile atm.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure they're not approved by DOT/NHTSA, so there's not really a way to register them for public road use.

[–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Low quality cars heavily subsidized by the government are not exactly valid comparison. We do need to force manufacturers to lower their profits though. Current prices of electric cars are more than 50% pure greed.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

American "high quality" cars have their roofs and doors falling off, so it's a pretty valid comparison. Pay 50,000 USD, your door handles don't work, your roof might fall off and you aren't allowed to fix anything yourself.

Also, I'm in China right now, and these are not "low quality" electric cars. The BYD mid-range SUVs I'm talking about match the range and quality manufacture of Teslas and bolts I've been in. You'll need to back that statement up with very current articles and evidence.

They have cheaper ones too, like 3k US, work fine, and are compacts.