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submitted 1 year ago by digdilem@feddit.uk to c/linux@lemmy.ml

An exceptionally well explained rant that I find myself in total agreement with.

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[-] digdilem@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I'd just finished migrating around 70 Centos 6 machines to Centos 8, a month ahead of them killing the distro that was supposed to last until 2028. We went with Rocky, but the problem is the same as Alma's.

Fortunately both companies seem to have pretty well developed plans for coping with this, and no doubt Oracle and Amazon distros will too, so no need to jump ship yet.

That said, we're also considering a debian shaped future, at least in part. There's absolutely no way we'll sign up for Rhel accounts. Not because they're expensive, but because decisions like this undermine our trust in them as a business partner.

[-] lucas@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Ooof, I feel ya. Good luck!

[-] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Yea, we're just starting a EL7 to Alma 9 migration. Kind of not looking forward to having to throw out all that work and try and migrate somewhere else if the rebuilds become impossible to make in the next few months or even few years. And if this doesn't work, I don't see why they don't try something else in 2 years again, so I'm far less sanguine than I was back with them ending CENTOS.

[-] digdilem@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

It is a worry, isn't it? I built two more Rocky 9 servers today and it certainly would be a major faff if Rocky went away. However, I have a lot of faith in them, and I also respect Alma. Both are strong, well run organisations with a lot of clever people working together for the benefit of the community. I think we'll be fine, even if the details have to change a little bit.

We certainly won't be trusting Redhat in any way though, but we're not big enough to be useful to them. They've proved they have complete disdain for the foss community they depend upon, and showing ones colours like that is not going to help their bottom line. It's a shame.

[-] nick_99@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Debian is great. I use it and love it every day.

[-] digdilem@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

I agree, it's my preferred distro and I run a couple of debian servers at home, and my personal laptop that I'm using now.

But work is all Centos and Rocky.

[-] nick_99@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

All of my servers for my LLC and at home are Debian. At my day job we use RHEL. I get to upgrade ~400 servers to RHEL8/9.

[-] digdilem@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I've created a todo item for myself at work; "See how easily we can switch new builds to debian in our automation and management systems". Doesn't hurt to be flexible.

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