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[–] livus@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

@Deceptichum I had never heard of those people and had to google them. I... really don't want to deep dive into true crime right now so I don't hold an opinion on whether they can be sucessfuly rehabbed but the point I made elsewhere about child soldiers applies in general - it's a difficult area to deal with, but Western countries need to step up.

My guiding principle here is that I believe human rights are inalienable.

I'm arguing against the idea that there is anything a 15 year old can do that strips them of their human rights.

And it's ironic that if she'd just been trafficked to Rotherford or something half the people deriving enjoyment from her current status would have had a different response.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

She voluntarily chose to go join ISIS after watching videos of people being beheaded, you make it sound like she was kidnapped off of the street and shipped to the middle east against her will.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

The British government bears responsibility for letting that happen to one of their citizens either way. The responsible thing to do is to imprison them yourselves, not leaving them stuck in a ramshackle detention camp in rebel held territory in Syria.

[–] livus@kbin.social -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@Deceptichum you should take a look at the wikipedia article about the girl that was taken the previous year, it's quite eye ipening about the methods this cult used to prey on these kids.

The worst part is it could have been prevented - her father warned police that these other 15 year olds were at risk and all they did is give the kids themselves a letter to bring to their parents.

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just a completely unrelated fyi here: On lemmy you don't need to tag a user when you're replying directly to one of their comments, they'll automatically get a notification in their inbox.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

@_dev_null thanks, I know.

The reason it turns up in my comments is because kbin autopopulates our comments with tags, and I don't always remember to check where I am and delete that before I post.

On Kbin itself they're handy. Kbin integrates with Mastodon and those guys kind of need @tags to follow our conversation threads when they come to discuss our posts.

And on lemmys, the @ is useful for me to keep track of who I'm saying what to anyway at times because our threading can't handle some of the really big lemmy comment sections.

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

Ah til, thanks for taking the time to enumerate that for me!

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm on Mastodon. I don't need the @s . I delete them from my auto populated comments.

The threading turns out fine

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

@bigMouthCommie good to know! Maybe it's just at my end that it gets messed up.