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It always makes me smirk when they show a car zooming down a completely empty city street.
The only way that’s going to happen is if you blow through a barricade. I almost expect them to plow into a bunch of marathon runners or something.
It's sad that you people don't understand that places like that do exist, all across the vast landscape of America.
It is reality, and it exists outside of major cities. I literally never have to endure a traffic jam when I commute.
The actual reality is that the freedom to roam is what a car grants you. It does not grant you freedom to roam inside crowded cities. You can't "roam" there because it's too fucking crowded but as soon as you get outside the city the freedom begins.
Its nice to see that the Lemmy fuckCars crowd is a little more understanding that cars are needed outside of cities. I live in rural Colorado and I can drive for hours w/o traffic.
For example, this photo was taken in the forest a few miles from my house.
Nope fuck your car. You should be walking or biking all those miles duh
The traffic jam is the reality for the vast majority of car owners. Most people live in cities, and they're only too crowded because cars are too big.
Actually the majority of Americans live in the suburbs, 55%. 31% live in urban / metro environments, and 14% live in rural areas according to Pew Research:
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/
Where I live is classified as "rural" by Pew's map but I live in town, and I have easy access to groceries and restaurants. It takes me about 20 minutes to commute to work by car. Life is good here.
suburbs are essentially sprawled urban areas that are predicated on bad design and requiring a car.
Suburbs are design with the implicit assumption that people will need a car. No car and require public transit? Tough shit, good luck with whatever current routes may or may not exist.
Suburbs are part of cities, and are the parts which have higher rates of car ownership. Being able to commute into a city by car is the entire point of a suburb.
Suburbs are generally towns adjacent to cities, by their literal definition and municipal boundaries. You are probably saying they are part of cities to fit the narrative that "most people live in cities" which is not accurate when you look at the actual concrete data.
From your own link:
And when I said "most people live in cities", I was including suburbs, and in fact its mostly suburbanites that I was referring to since they are the ones sitting in these traffic jams. People in denser urban areas, or I guess what you're thinking of when I say "cities", own fewer cars and use other modes more.
There's no "narrative", you just had a different interpretation of what I meant.
Citation needed.
Most city-livers don't own cars. If they do, they can go find open roads. They just have to get out of the city.