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Meloni heads Italy’s most rightwing government since the second world war. Italy’s criminal code punishes with a fine ranging from €1,000 to €5,000 anyone who “publicly defames the republic”, which includes the government, parliament, the courts and the army.

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[–] Methylman@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

TIL about Italy's shunning of their past in contrast to the "collective guilt" felt by Germans after WWII

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italiani_brava_gente

[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Have you ever heard of Mafia. Bc if you come to this country they will mostly collectively lie and tell you" Hun? Naaaa that's gone". You live here for a while and you like, oh ok, we just pretending it's gone nice.

[–] lemme_at_it@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The fact that the Italian military & it's leaders were spared from the Nuremberg Trials made this all the easier.

[–] Emu@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Italy has a real hardware love for fascism, it's part of the culture, unfortunately. I wouldn't be surprised if they go full Nazi in the coming decades.

[–] nefonous@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After WW2 italian socialist and communist parties where between the strongest ones in non USRR europe (if not the number one), but let's just spout random nonsense for no reason

While the extreme right wing never disappeared, they were as much as a niche as the extreme left.

The country stayed between the left and the center until well into the 90s when a moderate right became more prominent and started to be closer to a 50/50 split

The general right wing radicalization we're seeing now is way more recent and it's hardly a phenomenon exclusive to Italy.

I totally agree that the current Italian government is ridiculous and that this problem with extreme right wing populism is becoming very serious in most western countries, Italy included.

But comparing this to a culture ingrained love for fascism when fascism didn't last for even 1% of Italian history and culture is just asinine and ignorant.

This kind of attitude is ironically very similar to the racism you're trying to criticize

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With operation Gladio Italy was the core place for neonazi terrorist groups that received paramilitary training and funding by the US and carried out multiple terrorist attacks to be blamed on the left. It is hard to believe that the Italian government wouldnt have known and tolerated theses activities too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

[–] wazoobonkerbrain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Italy has a real hardware love for fascism

yup even italian computers are infected

[–] Emu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I swear to god that I typed hardcore. lol

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sometimes it feels that Italy consists entirely of pasta, fascism and 🤌.