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US says no troops to Haiti as country reels from explosion of gang violence
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 06 Mar 2024
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One should read the history of Haiti. They were the first slaves to revolt and become free, so France wanted them to pay for "lost business". So they had to pay off a huge debt. And the U.S. didn't want Haiti to succeed because it would have encouraged slaves in the U.S. to revolt. So Haiti got roadblock after roadblock.
And France still hasn't owned up to it.
Greedy fuckers.
Aristide called for reparations from France. Then a bunch of paramilitary units came across the border from the Dominican Republic and staged a coup, at the climax of which the US offered him a plane trip into exile in Africa.
It's a little reminiscent of Cuba in a way. They're still under Cold War/Red Scare sanctions for whatever reason, and that's not done well for their ability to grow and develop.
What’s your source on this?
From Wikipedia:
Later:
From the book Napoléon, l'esclavage et les colonies (Napoleon, slavery and the colonies) https://a.co/d/0gaXPow
And how long ago was that? And we're still saying "it's someone else's fault?"
I'm from a developing country and while I agree that leaders of former colonies tend blame their former colonial masters to distract the public from internal corruption, the case of Haiti is unique and the unquestionably exploited. Long after independence, they have been subjected to economic imperialism both by France and US.
The New York Times wrote a report detailing the history of Haiti being forced to pay by France at gunpoint after independence, as "reparations" for damaging French properties, i.e. slaves being freed. France then increased the amount and few decades later, the responsibility of creditor has been passed on to American banks, in which the debt doubled-- or double indemnity.
Haiti became independent in 1804 but the debt only became fully repaid in 1930s. Over 130 years after Haitian independence. Imagine that, 130 years being in debt! It is almost as good as being a slave but in a different name. They became free from physical servitude but became slaves by finance.
Haiti's debt burden made them desperate from invading Dominican Republic in early years to totally exhausting their natural resources to service the debt. You could see the massive deforestation in Haiti compared to neighbouring DR as a result.
If you're still not convinced at US and French direct influence on Haiti's downfall of its well-being, it is too much of a coincidence that the democratically elected former Haitian president, Jean Paul Aristide, was supported militarily by France and US to return to power. But when Aristide asked France and US to return the $22 billion worth of assets to Haiti due to double of indemnity, paramilitary groups stormed the presidential palace and Aristide was forced to go on exile to Africa. And France and US never returned their support to him.
If you're still not convinced, look at neighbouring Dominican Republican as comparison. It shares the same island as Haiti; were both former colonies; both underwent dictatorships; and both got invaded by US, and yet the DR is projected to become a developed country by 2030. It is unquestionable that Haiti was intentionally screwed and the world isn't paying enough attention to it.