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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe if you used LIDAR you'd have self-driving cars by now, you moron.

[–] BobKerman3999@feddit.it 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Regardless, he's saying this stupid shit for more than 10 years now. Self driving cannot be solved without an artificial general intelligence because there has to be an understanding of what other people are going to be doing

[–] fearout@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh. You can probably solve it with a good enough artificial narrow intelligence. Or/and dedicated infrastructure, inter-car communication protocols, etc. The issue is it's solving the wrong problem altogether.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Years ago (maybe still) Microsoft had a research facility for self-driving infrastructure. Instead of putting all the recognition and awareness in the car itself, a lot of it was offloaded the mini city they built. Streets and stop signs with embedded RFID, etc.

This, of course, doesn't stop pedestrians from dying. But I thought it was a cool approach to the problem to "update the world" instead of trying to make a product that navigates our unmodernized infrastructure

[–] BobKerman3999@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point wouldn't it better to just build railway for trams?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe, though trams only work in town. I couldn't go see my family with a tram but I could put my self-driving city car in manual and take it out past the cornfields.

I think a lot of things have to change outside of major cities for public transportation to really take off as a concept here. There is SO much "empty" space in the US, it's hard to imagine getting infrastructure out there that mainly only benefits a handful of people

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If there was dedicated lanes/infrastructure it might be possible but makes more sense for cities to improve public transportation. A bus/train is a big fancy car powered by a general intelligence.

I think they used to include RADAR in their cars, which is probably better for handling weather conditions that would interfere with light based systems (fog, snow, rain, etc.). They took it out, with Musk claiming they could do FSD with just cameras. Probably it was about cost or supply, and I think they decided to add it back recently.