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[–] JayJay@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to know what your definition of mental disorder is as that may make it clearer where our disagreement lies. My definition would be a condition that has a clinical effect on a persons psychological well-being as diagnosed by a professional using the DSM as diagnostic standards.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

One of those things in the DSM is a steadfast belief in something that clearly is not true and can be repeatedly disproven. Patient remains firm in his delusion.

"God spoke to me" is an auditory hallucination. The religion's founder was literally going to stab his son to death over this.

[–] JayJay@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Yes, some people in religions can hold delusional beliefs. However, there are also people who release their delusions and instead hold onto unfalsifiable beliefs. There are also people who try to merge their religion into reality and are willing to change their mind on the attributes of their religion. However, there are many aspects of religion that do not have proveably false natures. There are people who haven't been shown how their beliefs conflict with reality. You are just as bad as the theists if you wish to harm or outlaw the freedom of religion these people have. You are going after the freedoms of millions if not billions of innocent people because of the actions of some radicals with power. It goes back to my previous statement. You're advocating a similar thing to what they are.