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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But here's the thing: hundred of years have been spent trying to reason with them. Now they are in political power and actively killing and persecuting others...AGAIN. I do not give a single one of them that wiggle room any more, and you shouldnt either. If they're going to insist that they're persecuted REGARDLESS of reality, then time to fucking persecute them. Give them their self-fulfilling prophesy. It's literally what they want.

[–] JayJay@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This shows me how radicalized you may be. 2 wrongs do NOT make a right. Yes, there are some people who have radicalized hard into their religion to the point of zealotry. If you do the same, you'll fall into similar pitfalls. The radicalized people who are gaining political power do need to be stopped, i agree. However, you can not assume that all religious people believe the same as the radicals. There are a huge number of people you would persecute that would agree with you politically but disagree with you on the notion of god. You are falling into the same evils you seek to destroy. If you fight fire with fire, you'll see everything burn. If you claim to be morally superior, don't commit the same crimes as the accused.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That sounds wonderful in ideal and on paper but the reality is that the zealotry and the recurring ensuing violence cannot be stopped by simply saying "not ALL believers!..."

I do not understand why religious evil is protected but defensive action is not.

[–] JayJay@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And let's be realistic here: zealotry, whether its religious or ideological, will always happen. My point is that you shouldn't punish the many for the crimes of the few.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] JayJay@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

So dont be like them! That is the point!

[–] JayJay@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Defensive action is justified. But not when it affects the bystanders who did no wrong.