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There has always been a non-military solution... Russia can go the fuck home and stop trying to invade other countries.
Putin doesn't have "volunteers", he has a pool of what he considers undesirable citizens that he can trick or force into serving his meat grinder. Not to mention a seen in other articles recently he's now resorting to essentially kidnapping citizens from other countries to fight his war for him. Funny, I would think if he had that many volunteers he wouldn't have to resort to these tactics.
I can't really comment on the rest as I can't read the article and have no reference on which these claims were made.
Wouldn't that just lead to the citizens of the Donbas Republics being forced to fight alone against Ukraine and its remaining far-right paramilitaries?
Donbass was part of sovereign pre-2014 Ukrainian state. The people of Donbass will not bow to the ethno-state insurrectionists who overthrew the constitutional goverment. In any case, it's some kind of karma that American fans of post-Maidan Ukraine would have orange bigot imposed on them before the end of this year.
Last census held by Ukraine in 2001 has shown that nearly 60% inhabitants of Crimea were Russians. How you can drive them out without ethnic cleansing? Well, it's obvious that it's impossible to be supportive towards current Ukrainian regime without being at least a bit nazi.
You know I've never heard about this. The line I usually hear is Russia has brainwashed the Ukrainians there into becoming "Russia-backed separatists". How much of the population of Donbas has been forcibly removed and are there any reputable western media sources where I can read more about this?
Then again, Donbas backed by fascist Russia and Ukraine having neonazi groups fighting each other, anti-fascists can't support either. Mathematically considering, Russia's invasion succeeding would promote more fascism to spread. What would prevent them or others in the future?
Which Donbas neonazi groups are you talking about? The only one I'm familiar with is Rusich group, which consisted of 30 or so guys. That's less neonazis than you find in single US marine battalion. The other example I can think of is that one Senior Lieutenant who wore the R3ICH operator skull and a valknut while receiving an award. There's been back and forth on that guy and if those patches were looted. The R3ICH skull in particular is heavily associated with the Ukrainian military's neonazis and is sold by the same company that makes Zelensky's famous green clothes, Zelensky himself has been photographed with his bodyguard prominently displaying the R3ICH skull. It was a bad look for the Lt. either way but he's still just one guy.
Azov battalion
Yeah, Azov is a bad look for Ukraine, even though they fight against Russia's fascist forces
Edit: some seemed to misunderstand. Nazis are always horrible, even when used against a larger threat.
It's not just the optics that are bad.
True
"The Waffen-SS is a bad look for Germany, even though they fight against Russia's judo-bolshevik forces"
Did the fact that Zelensky and the entire Canadian Parliament give a standing ovation to a Waffen-SS member cause you any sort of ideological dissonance? Or do you agree with Zelensky that its "normal and cool" for people to support Nazi collaborators?
No, you skipped the whole thread. There's nothing cool about nazis. They're a plague to everyone. When invading countries and when infighting against the invaders.
That's great, so you would you agree that the US should stop providing money, training, and weapons to Ukraine and its Nazi (and Neonazi) paramilitaries?
By the way, here's a source of Zelensky saying it's "normal and cool" for people to think that Stepan Bandera is a hero: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/6768
I was just reading about this the other day: Like Bernie wants to stop resourcing Israel, some US politicians had a condition that Azov would not be assisted. But apparently the Pentagon got that overruled
I think that was way before Israel's current massacres. Congress banned providing direct support to Azov in 2015 and then unbanned direct support in 2016 under pressure from the Pentagon. There might have been another attempted ban after that, I don't remember. Even when the ban was in place it's not like it was hard to get around, they just had the Azov guys join a different battalion for the duration of the training (and wear long sleeves).
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/congress-has-removed-a-ban-on-funding-neo-nazis-from-its-year-end-spending-bill/
The US should probably have considered not backing the fascist coup in 2014 then. Crimeans and ethnic Russians and eastern Ukrainians in Donbas wouldn't have been bombed by the coup gov and it wouldn't have gotten to this point.
Agreed. When I was growing up we were getting towards the end of the cold war and Republican's stance was "better dead than red". Now look at them, getting all cozy with a communist dictator who cares more about giving the illusion of strength over the welfare of his own people. This reflects the position of all the modern Republicans as well, who are nothing more than performance artists bent on destroying education, health care, and anything else that benefits the public, as long as their wealthiest contributors are happy. What ever happened to stepping in and helping those who couldn't help themselves?
What "communist dictator" are you talking about?
They don't seem like a lib tho. Mistaking Russian rightwingery with communism isn't their mo
I'm not going to go comment stalking. Usually libs just oppose right wingers for the sake of opposing their authoritarianism
Libs spent the Trump admin years portraying the republican leadership as communists, usually by giving them russophobic nicknames while surrounding pictures of them with Soviet iconography.
Their brains are so deep fried its as though everything that's happened to Russia after 1991 never happened and they still think it's 1942
Did they? I get the objections towards auths, who doesn't. But I've never seen them conflated with communism
WAPO reports:To understand Trump’s GOP, we need to look to Lenin and Mao. The GOP is behaving like a Maoist party.
Newsweek reports: What Donald Trump Learned From Vladimir Lenin About Chaos in Politics
And plenty more absolute trash that the lying mouthpieces of Capitalists that calls themselves "reporters" passes as "news", I wouldn't even offer it as toilet paper to my worst enemies.
Yeah. WaPo is a Bezos media, stirring shit between other fascists just for its own benefit. Trump, Bezos, rest of the capitalist scum are all like red fash with power, it's ridiculous that they try to use it against each other. I guess we can give a point to libs for opposing those in this case.
found the radlib
More like radcom
Do you have the same opinion about Gaza and conscription in Isreal, by chance?
Most likely, yes. I haven't been following this as closely but Israel certainly hasn't hidden the fact that they are willing to commit all-out genocide just to get some land.
Good for you for at least caring about Gaza.
I think you mean that the Western media isn't reporting atrocities on non-white people. This isn't your fault, per se, just that that system is very broken.
I think most of us do, yes. This is whataboutism.