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Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) said policy differences toward Israel between her and President Biden won’t stop her from supporting him in the November general election.

“Of course,” Omar said Tuesday, when asked by CNN’s Abby Phillip on “NewsNight” whether she would vote for Biden if the election were held that day, in a clip highlighted by Mediaite. “Democracy is on the line, we are facing down fascism.”

“And I personally know what my life felt like having Trump as the president of this country, and I know what it felt like for my constituents, and for people around this country and around the world,” Omar continued. “We have to do everything that we can to make sure that does not happen to our country again.”

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago (121 children)

It's insane how when someone criticizes anything about Biden, the first move is accusing them of supporting trump, and when they have to clarify trump is obviously worse, everyone then acts like their criticisms of Biden becomes invalid.

Biden is better than trump. But we deserve better than either option.

"Shutting up and voting Biden" doesn't help anything, and is what we give republicans shit for.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Liberals always choose to stand in the way of progress. You'll never have better Dems if you don't criticize them. They aren't your friends and voting is a tool.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Malcolm X put it well:

The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them.

But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox.

That said, many people have a mistaken view of voting.

They think “I’m picking someone who represents who I am as a person, and so who I pick is a reflection of my very soul.”

Or at best, they think “I’m picking someone who will act in my best interests. I may not like them as a person, but the actions they take are at least a good approximation of the actions I want them to take.”

The reality is more like “I’m picking someone who will inevitably act in the interest of those in power. I need to pick someone who has the right vulnerabilities. They don’t have a good rapport with certain powerful entities, so they don’t mind pissing those ones off if it means they can score some votes as a result.”

You’re not picking someone to lead your side. You’re picking who you’d rather negotiate with from their side.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 20 points 8 months ago (12 children)

You're saying that here, but you have repeatedly said you're voting third party, and I among many others have given you shit for that, as well as your refusal to even acknowledge one thing you think Biden has done well. You complain about this so much on Lemmy that I recognize your name, and can usually tell when you've written a comment before I even look at the name. Go outside sometimes.

Feel free to respond to this but fyi I'm not going to read it.

[–] fukhueson@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I too have seen exactly this from that user.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

He also baits you so he can report you. If he's not a paid troll, he's a sucker, because he's doing this at a professional level.

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[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Sure, but there are only 4 options when November comes: 1) vote for Biden, 2) vote for Trump, 3) vote 3rd party, or 4) don’t vote.

Due to how the US system works, options 2-4 only help Trump, so unless you want a Trump presidency, only option 1 is valid.

Anything else is just at best a pipe dream, or at worst, direct support for someone who will become a dictator.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

There's a time and a place. In this case, the last best time was in 2015 and 2019 during the democratic primary elections. And the left shot its shot and got Bernie pretty freaking far along, enough to reshape the democratic party apparatus partly in his vision. And maybe that didn't give us President Sanders, but it might give us the next great president.

If Trump gets in, he won't leave.

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 5 points 7 months ago (31 children)

But we deserve better than either option.

You can deserve all you want, but that won't change the names on the ballot. If you really care, start organizing some grassroots support around 3rd parties, or perhaps take on a role in government in your local jurisdiction. The upcoming election is 99.999% going to be between Trump and Biden. Vote or not, there's very little you can do about alternatives at this point. Start working on the next one.

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