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Israeli forces kill 20 Palestinians waiting for aid, Gaza health ministry says
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 15 Mar 2024
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The IDF reports that Palestinian gunmen fired at civilians waiting for aid at Kuwait Square in Gaza City last night, resulting in casualties. IDF troops did not fire during the incident.
As per the IDF's investigation, a convoy of 31 trucks carrying food and humanitarian aid for civilians was en route to northern Gaza. An hour before reaching an IDF-established corridor, armed Palestinians shot at civilians waiting for the aid trucks, according to the probe.
The IDF states that as the aid trucks entered the corridor, the gunmen continued shooting while some Gazans began looting the trucks. The IDF also observed civilians being run over by the trucks.
Hamas health officials reported at least 21 deaths and over 150 injuries in the incident.
After an intensive preliminary review, the IDF concluded that its forces did not fire at the aid convoy at Kuwait Square. The military's operational systems and troops on the ground did not engage in tank shelling, airstrikes, or gunfire toward the Gazan crowd during the aid convoy's presence.
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1768585030412976318?s=19
Oh yeah, I get all my news from random tweets
I've seen where you get your news. Some of those sites are barred in the middle east.
Yeah, which ones? IndieWire, The Guardian, The Columbus Dispatch, Al Jazeera, Truthout? Those are the only sites I've posted from. Be specific. And when you say middle east, do you mean all of the Middle East or just the murderous ethno-colonial government in Israel?
Lol Israel is commiting genocide but good call throwing "in Israel" on the end
So we're just going to believe the Israeli "this calendar is a Hamas names list" Defense force?
No the calendar just lists all the birthdays of Hamas members.
Let's go to the tape...
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1768713432759419148?t=wBz3V1wVk9PrXKP8nvee7A&s=19
from idf
Yes lets keep trusting those who continously lie...
Really? Scum?
Yes if true.
I'd like a word with your mom.
Which is it? Are you a zionist or not? What are you on about now? We are trying to establish something here.
Well, let's define terms. Far as I know, Zionest means to believe e there should be a Jewish State, or Zion. I'm not a religious person, but I do believe people have always gathered in groups to become nations. I don't see any difference for Jews. They have the right to exist just like everybody else. Hope that answers your question, and I hope your mama didn't teach you to call others scum.
So this whole genocide business is ok with you, because Jews have a right to exist? Also, I didn't call you scum - look again.
In the grander scale of global politics, a fact is that Russia is waging an actual war against Ukraine and a covert war against Europe and the West. Another fact is that Palestine has chosen to side with Russia, so in the current situation I see no reason to side with Palestine. I think all resources to help Palestine should be diverted to help Ukraine. When Russia has been contained, we can start thinking about things like Gaza. But until that happens, every diversion just critically weakens us.
It's like a hierarchy of needs, you know? If my neighbor is threatening to punch me in the face, I don't have the luxury of being worried about a potentially worse thing happening on the other side of the city.
This doesn't excuse genocide, if such a thing would be happening, but it sure does give a reason to support Israel over Palestine.
Not a fact at all. Gonna need your source on that.
You DO know that at least two thirds of the Palestinians killed are civilians, right? And that's the official estimate that the IDF proudly declared, so in reality the ratio is likely much worse.
Fuck that. Ukraine should get a shitload of help and they ARE getting a shitload of help. None of it should be taken from victims of genocide, rampant disease and starvation, though.
Not even most civilian RUSSIANS are to blame for Putin's invasion and you're blaming innocent Palestinians??
Ever heard about walking and chewing gum at the same time?
The richest countries in the world ABSOLUTELY have the resources and expertise to help Ukraine and Palestinians at the same time.
To pretend that it's an either/or situation and that children dying of hunger or from IDF bombings and bullets RIGHT NOW will have to wait their turn because they're less important and the government that they didn't choose is a bad one is as asinine as it is heartless.
Absolute nonsense.
That's absolutely not how international humanitarian aid works, no.
Ah, now I get it! You just think that white European people with blonde hair and blue eyes are more important than Palestinians. Sounds familiar..
Nothing does.
It is. Nobody who isn't biased in favor of the Israeli government doubt it for a second.
It ABSOLUTELY does not. Israel is an occupation force committing genocide. There's absolutely no defensible reason for supporting that.
The Israeli government is not defending itself. It's eradicating a people, which is never justifiable, no matter what.
No, you called other people scum. Same thing.
And for the record I do think threating anyone like Isreal is threating Palestinians deserves that title and more
My experience says calling people names not only achives nothing, but says more about the caller than the called. It is also the sign of a dry intellect.
Yeah it's hard to watch what's going on (and has been for ages) and be powerless to do anything about it. Saying nothing achieves nothing as well. I'd much rather see genocidal maniacks and the like in court proceedings my self, but expressing disgust is better than keeping things bottled up inside. Fuck!
Seems you lack control as well as perspective. Good luck to you on both counts.
Ok so I guess you answered by not answering. Don't act surprised when we take you for scum
Answering what? I've been nothing but nice to you. I really don't care what you call me. My skin is thick and I consider the source.
I'm sure there were polite Nazis. They were still scum.
Not even that.You didn't look, did you?
Non-credible biased source that has been known to habitually lie to further their narrative. Probably doing it again here.
Again, notoriously untrustworthy source. It's like trusting American cops to investigate each other. You're not getting the truth that way.
Common precursor to a bunch of lies
Much more likely
Surprise surprise, more IDF lies that shifts the blame away from themselves, contrary to the reports of more credible sources.
Doesn't that description match Hamas as well? "Gazan health ministry" is practically Hamas.
The casualty numbers and causal claims of the Gazan health ministry have repeatedly been judged consistent with the findings of neutral third party NGOs.
Besides, the health ministry might be nominally under Hamas control, but the major clinics are run by the UNRWA and staffed by doctors, nurses and medical administrators, not Hamas terrorists.
Gaza Health Ministry statistics are credible and used by everyone including the Israeli government and military. Athough the Israelis will publicly dispute the statistics, they use them internally as the numbers are good.
You will only believe what you want to believe, right? You will only look at information you agree with.
That's rich coming from someone quoting a tweet about statements from the IDF about something that happened in Gaza 😂
Quoted in a string that is very much is to the contrary. Rich, huh. You want video?
Considering the source, no thanks. Video can be deceptively edited and otherwise doctored, which the propaganda arm of the IDF have been known to consistently do.
That you trust the IDF as a source in spite of their well-documented history of constant distortions amd outright fabrication makes it clear that you readily swallow horse shit and don't understand why people don't automatically agree that it's actually prime beef.
That's right, you only look at sources that agree with you. The contrary view is not considered and in fact discounted. You don't want to see it because you may be deceived, when in fact you never consider you may already be deceived. Listen, I really don't care what you believe. I am simply disrupting the chat box people like you enjoy. Carry on.
Not trusting a source with the reliability equivalent of The Daily Mail has nothing to do with whether I "agree". That's just a strawman you keep trotting out because you can't defend your awful source.
Bias and source skepticism are not the same thing and pretending so is the refuge of people promoting poorly sourced bullshit.
Hey it's the guy that believes everything the IDF says lmao.
Hey, it's the guy who believes everything Hamas says lmao
Hamas = every international organization, independent news source, and every human rights org who is critical of Israel and Israeli propaganda. Gottem lol
I'd love for you to waste your day trying to prove that. Better brew a pot of coffee big guy.
Do you really think you are winning people to your side with intellectual dishonesty? Real question.
Hilarious. You think it's all about winning people over? I'd be happy if they would stop to think.
Thanks for fucking my flow with your inane side chatter, welcome to my block list.
It's a pleasure.
Oh hey, there's tape..., https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1768713432759419148?t=wBz3V1wVk9PrXKP8nvee7A&s=19