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Nope! Just decided to be a disappearing asshole for 36 hours and come back like nothing happened.

edit: thanks to all for the different perspectives. he is fixed, has all of his shots, and has his own temperature contolled kitty condo (aka the laundry room) that we put him into every night. we have a pretty good network of neighbors and pieced together his activities via security cameras. he's a mouser for sure and that is his job until he decides to retire.

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[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We have yards here in the USA.

Most responsible pet owners spay/neuter their pets.

If you bag your dogs poop then you already understand how cats can be invasive.

One dog pooping on the ground is whatever, everyone’s dog is gross.

One cat killing a bird is whatever, everyone’s cats doing it day in day out…. A problem.

The issue primarily is that your cat is the invasive species

[–] Daveyborn@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Cats also kill for entertainment. Kaia got out one time for about 2 hours and piled up 10 lizards and 2 birds in the yard.

[–] ianovic69@feddit.uk -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know that you can equate dog poop with bird kills by cats. One happens all the time as a necessity, but surely cats aren't out there killing birds all the time. They have other things to chase, they have places to go, things to smell, stuff to eat that's easier than birds. Then there's all that sleeping to do, that thing that needs to be knocked off onto the floor, you get the idea.

Poop, cats are doing that everywhere. A lot more than killing birds, I reckon. Like I said, I'm a learner. I love finding out I'm wrong, it means I'm not wrong anymore.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Freeroaming house cats successfully kill approximately 2 small game animals a week. That's a 104 kills a year, 1560 kills in a lifetime of 15 years. Lets say they stay indoors during their kitten year. With 90 million pet cats in the US that'd be a killrate of 90 000 000 000 small game animals a year, if they were all allowed outside.

[–] ianovic69@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there's definitely a disconnect here. It's obviously much worse in the US and as there's no scientific evidence to link cats to declining bird numbers in the UK, I didn't think there would be such a big difference.

I stand corrected on that and thanks for adjusting my knowledge.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

Does it really need to be researched and peer reviewed before the fact that your cat, allowed outside, will be an invasive species that will kill small game animals that wouldn't otherwise have been killed, and that that is one of many reasons to keep it indoors?

Yes, if there are few enough, the impact won't be consequential, but humans making decisions assuming such things is why our streets are covered in cigarette butts and why we have to have trash cans along forest trails.

Even if the situation in the UK is fine, just that idea in itself can cause things to quickly become not fine, as a thousand people can each think to themself "one more cat won't be a problem" while together adding a thousand cats to the environment, not one.