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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

A 40% reduction in emissions and continued American democracy?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

But I mean, the man isn't 100% on what I want. So obviously we have to abstain, causing the end of democracy in this shit system.

[–] CrazyFrog97@discuss.online 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I'm tired of seeing this worn out point. What exactly would you propose he do that is:

  1. Actually possible for him to do

  2. Not going to make the situation worse

  3. Not something he is already doing

Don't get me wrong, I don't like what Israel is doing either but the US has painted themselves into a corner long before the Biden admin. We can't stop supporting Israel without basically ceding control of the region to Iran, and I guarantee Iran will do shit that will make Israel look like Mr. Rogers by comparison.

I'm not saying there's nothing he could be doing better, but I don't see any productive discussion from the people calling him Genocide Joe.

And all that aside, he's still by far the preferable alternative to Don Cheeto who would likely actually be a genocide enabler.

[–] june@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Name a reasonable (see: electable) alternative who is

  1. better on Israel
  2. better for the economy
  3. can beat trump

Until you can you should probably stfu because if you think it’s better to see Biden lose to trump over Israel, you’re going to be pretty damn disappointed when trump puts boots on the ground to help Israel.