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I installed NetGuard about a month ago and blocked all internet to apps, unless they're on a whitelist. No notifications from this particular system app (that can't be disabled) until recently when it started making internet connection requests to google servers. Does anyone know when this became a thing?

Edit 2: I bought my Pixel 6 phone outright, directly from Google's Australian store. I have no creditors.

Were the courts not enough control for creditors? Since when are they allowed to lock you out of your purchased property without a court order?

I don't even live in the US, so what the actual fuck?

Edit 1: You can check it's installed (~~stock~~ Pixel 6 android 14) Settings > Apps > All Apps > three dot menu, Show system > search "DeviceLockController".

I highly recommend getting NetGuard, you can enable pro features via their website if you have the APK for as low as 0.10€, but donate more, because it's amazing. You can also purchase via Google Play store.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does it though? Isn't there a risk of creating outrage but leading to increased learned helplessness rather than actual action?

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

learned helplessness is going "we own nothing and we'll be happy" or more accurately being entirely apathetic to the existence of no longer having ownership.

in my experience, the vast majority of people (in tech circles) that use that phrase, are practicing what they preach.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, learned helplessness is "we own nothing, it sucks, yet we see no alternative and we gave up on looking".

If you were to imply that's my situation happy to report it's not, cf https://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/SelfHostingArtificialIntelligence or how I, just as an example, deleted my e.g Google and Meta accounts few years ago, and gave a workshops to RightsCon last year, unfortunately not recorded.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well to be specific here. The example of learned helplessness that everyone loves citing, is when we put animals in a cage with a floor that will continually give them an electric shock that is impossible to avoid. And what is commonly seen is that the animals eventually just stop caring, become apathetic in a sense, and just wait to be shocked.

So my application of apathy here applies, and is reflected in your interpretation as well. So realistically the best way to phrase it would be "We own nothing."

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then those people are not citing the experiment properly because the whole point about it is NOT that it's unavoidable. The experiment goes on an the threat is actually removed YET animals, either the same or new ones who get in touch with the others who were subject to the threat, keep on not trying. They LEARNED to become helpless despite the situation being objectively solvable.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ok but the thing here is that this is all still new. Owning nothing doesn't exist yet.

Corpos would like for us to own nothing, or at the very least it seems like everything is moving that direction. I.E. we're being put in the cage.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

seems like everything is moving that direction

Exactly the kind of learned helplessness that I'm fighting against. Sure a LOT of content is now only streamed and behind DRM ... but it is NOT all content. In fact maybe even quality content exist precisely outside such platform. Even if it's less than 50%, heck even if it's 1%, it might be enough. The whole of my argument is precisely that making shortcuts like "everything" are supporting the narrative that no alternatives exist, while it is simply not true. This is a great example of the problem. Please do not spread such ideas because that's doing the job of the "Corpos" you seem to want to criticize.

yeah no, i fundamentally disagree with you though. Your argument essentially seems to boil down into "but actually, it's not as bad as you think it is" which is a really fucking weird point to hold when it comes to this kind of stuff. That or you're ignoring how bad it is, because of something else, which you seem to be more focused on.

I still don't see what the point of this is. This is basically the equivalent of giving someone shit for calling out a racist because "well actually, thats what racists want, they want their shit to be spread"