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[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nobody is taking fentanyl or krokodil in world where uncut medical-grade opiates are available. Hell, even fentanyl can be dosed safely if it isn't coming from the unregulated black market.

Full legalization, full-stop. Drugs are so dangerous because we prohibit the existence of a safe, regulated market.

[–] theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

How the hell do you dose fentanyl safely outside of a clinical context? You cannot discern a lethal dose from a nonlethal dose with the naked eye.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Legalized doesn't mean unregulated, people went blind during prohibition due to dangerous moonshine but it's incredibly rare now as it's brought from licensed manufacturers.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Tbh it's even rare with moonshine now. Idk if it's just the internet making knowledge more widely accessible but now people know to throw out the methanol (or "foreshots") for blinding reasons, and if you want it to be good throw the heads and tails too.

[–] theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's a property of fentanyl itself. I'm saying that outside of a clinical context, you don't have the instrumentation necessary to dose it.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

I'm suggesting reputable businesses could sell dosed mixtures just like they do in a clinical setting. A pill or solution with the appropriate amount.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

What the hell part of "regulated" was so hard to understand?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You're ignoring the part where they said that no one would be taking fentanyl because other opiates would be available. It was literally the first sentence.

People don't typically take it recreationally on purpose; it's usually because a low level dealer cut the drug and added fentanyl to it.

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

There are people on the street nowadays who prefer rent over heroin. It sounds crazy to non addicts, but the high is better for less money and it might actually be safe for people to knowingly buy fent and attempt correct dosing themselves rather than dosing for heroin but having cent laced.

Like, shit, that is dark and evidence the drug war has failed.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

With regulated doses, probably in pill form, like any other fucking drug? Obviously they wouldn't be selling pure fentanyl powder