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[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Not fascism, managed democracy. The bugs are the fascists

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I thought we started it, by invading, and they were acting in self defense?

[–] paholg@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One of my favorite lines in the game is (paraphrasing):

The problem with the bugs is that they're relentless expansionists. We've found them on almost every planet in their territory that we've colonized.

It's also pretty clear that we've been farming the bugs for space oil.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

It's explicit, isn't it? Some of the characters on the super destroyer mention it.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Doesn’t make em not fascists, and if the solution to FTL travel was just to kill a few bugs, wouldn’t you too?

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You might be thinking of the movie series, not the novel. In the book humans were essentially fascist, you could alternatively label it as "democracy" managed by a military dictatorship.

The bugs were not fascist, they were meant to represent communist China. Hienlien wrote starship trooper in a couple weeks, as a response to America announcing they were scaling back their nuclear arsenal.

Also, I don't think the book ever mentioned FTL.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was speaking in reference to Helldivers 2, because the parent comment was talking about roleplaying and people don’t usually use that language around books or TV shows.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fwiw, I was indeed taking about Helldivers, though I was referring to the irl "roleplay" of it in memes and in social media, even in communities completely unrelated to the game, like this one.

Same goes for those that take stuff like Fallout's Brotherhood of Steel or Warhammer's Imperium of Man too seriously. This stuff is better left in the context of the game. Bringing it into real life is sketchy at best.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago

But this isn’t real life. This is a niche social media site with a very specific demographic, namely huge nerds.

Now if someone outside was yelling "I‘M FROM BUENOS AIRES AND I SAY KILL 'EM ALL!" that would be pretty awkward. But we aren’t outside so excuse me while I

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know this is was crossposted to the helldivers sub, tbh i duno anything about it.. but the meme image is from starship troopers and its defo a fash government

[–] dvlsg@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Helldivers is effectively just starship troopers: the game. Same kind of satire.