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looks like rendering adblockers extensions obsolete with manifest-v3 was not enough so now they try to implement DRM into the browser giving the ability to any website to refuse traffic to you if you don't run a complaint browser ( cough...firefox )

here is an article in hacker news since i'm sure they can explain this to you better than i.

and also some github docs

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[–] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 137 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Stop using Google products I don’t know how else to fucking say it.

Chrome -> Firefox Drive -> sync or Dropbox or any number of options Sheets and productivity tools > libre office or Apache open office YouTube -> Invidious or even better, odysse Google search -> duck duck go, SearXNG, StartPage, etc Gmail -> not a ton of great options. I’d probably recommend proton mail but the FOSS email world is definitely lacking, or gets blocked or goes down, harder to self host etc.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 109 points 1 year ago (4 children)

helped with formatting:

Chrome -> Firefox

Drive -> sync or Dropbox or any number of options

Sheets and productivity tools > libre office or Apache open office

YouTube -> Invidious or even better, odysse

Google search -> duck duck go, SearXNG, StartPage, etc

Gmail -> not a ton of great options. I’d probably recommend proton mail but the FOSS email world is definitely lacking, or gets blocked or goes down, harder to self host etc.

And I agree for sure. In order I use firefox (and brave sometimes), Proton Drive, Apple Productivity suite (pages, numbers etc), and either startpage or qwant, and proton mail. I do still use use YouTube Premium, but the point is Google doesn't need to have its fingers in every aspect of my digital life.

[–] ANIMATEK@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While I get your spirit… Dropbox belongs to google too 😂 they are everywhere! Worse than the plague.

[–] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For many people, Google controls the entire network stack from their ISP, router, OS, DNS, their browser, all the way down to the platform hosting the content they watch.

Google has captured such a wide part of the Internet that any changes they make will have at least a moderate effect on our lives. Even if we don't use any Google services.

The only thing that can stop them is probably the EU at this point. And I'm sure Google has a plan for that.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can't have a plan for that. They have two options: conform or leave EU.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol, just ~~become the government~~ pay the EU.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EU is widely adopting the policy of fining by a percentage of global revenue which is what hurts even the largest companies, precisely to avoid "just pay the EU".

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[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i didn't write the quoted list, just helped the OP with his formatting. I use proton drive, not dropbox.

[–] rastilin@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I had no idea Proton Drive was a thing. I'll switch to it, Dropbox is becoming incredibly obnoxious with the advertising popups and notifications.

[–] salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure LibreOffice is a drop-in replacement for Google Docs if you need sharing, collaboration and built-in version control.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, something like collabora would be a better fit, although I never managed to get an actual instance of the thing running.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Works quite well through nextcloud IME :)

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I tried this and... I just can't get to run properly. Tried docker, AIO, separate installs :(

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found that quite easy, for once: I have a bare NC instance and I installed 2 add-ons (the integration bits and the CODE server that IIRC drops an appimage of the actual collabora server). Unless you have hundreds of users, that's about as much admin as you need :)

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[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

FYI, you need two new lines (hit Enter twice) to actually get a new line in Lemmy.

Two new lines One new line.

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Can also add two spaces at the end of line to force line break

[–] metaltoilet@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is there a reason behind this?

[–] h34d@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

It's standard markdown afaik. Two new lines creates a new paragraphs, two spaces and one new line creates just a new line.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

Markdown treats single newline breaks as being a line wrap in a long text flow

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[–] Compactor9679@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proton mail for sure!! Great great great! Cant stop recomending

[–] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yea i love Protonmail. I haven't had one issue with it.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What's the replacement for Android?

[–] pineapplelover@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linux, but that's not a viable option. I would use degoogled Android OSs. GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, e/os, and LineageOS are some of the popular ones.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

I use SailfishOS and while it's more work, it's viable.

Also correct here.

The 3 main have varying degrees of function vs security/privacy and should be researched.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look, it's an unpopular opinion and many will disagree with me, but while Apple does certain things to restrict you from customizing your experience, they're doing far less to destroy the open Internet than Google. So if you need a fully featured OS (which degoogled custom Android ROMs might not be, if you need banking for an example), it's still an alternative for now, until Linux mobile experience gets better.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On iOS, there's no browser extensions (for e.g. ad blocking), no alternative browsers, and no FOSS apps of any kind. That platform is extremely hostile to the ideals of computing freedom.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Like I said, it's a better (for privacy) alternative to stock Android when you need a fully functional operating system. If you can stand to lose the oppressive Google functionality, you can go degoogled Android or preferably Linux (if you don't care about battery life or app availability).

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[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait. Sync offers file storage? I thought it was just to sync up your Firefox sessions across multiple devices.

Or am I confusing services with similar names?

[–] Odo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they're referring to the storage service at sync.com, not Firefox Sync.

[–] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you like it? Would you prefer it over dropbox, or not really?

[–] arditty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve been migrating to sync from Dropbox after hearing too many reports of Dropbox scanning user content for things they deem objectionable. I like the end to end encryption, but I have found the mobile experience on iOS to be lacking. It seems to have trouble integrating with Files and uploading files directly via the iOS share menu. Annoying but not a dealbreaker.

[–] Repossess6855@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer it to drop box, it’s a better service and I believe not owned by Google like drop box it

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Gawd damn, I didn't know Google acquired Dropbox in 2010. Ok. Time to move.

But what makes Sync a better service? A better UI?

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Question, I use Google docs a lot cause I like the sync and it's convenient when I write something like a book on my computer and then can add more on my phone and it syncs. Does Apache open office do that? I would like to switch if all this chrome stuff is bad but I use all of it all the time

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://cryptpad.fr is a potential option. You can also host it yourself if you don't want to pay them for extra storage space.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Oh that looks neat! I'll have to look into it, thanks!

[–] breg@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

look into syncthing paired with local-first notes application (obsidian or similar), or simple text editor. work like a charm in my case.

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Alright, thanks, I'll try those out!

[–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Ok I really like Obsidian! The interface is really clean! I might still need to look for a proper word processor (I guess I could use libreoffice) but I also use geany as a notepad++ substitute and it's really nice too. I still gotta look into setting up syncthing though

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[–] Kyle@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I really really want to move from google workspace, google photos and google drive. I used it all to backup a 16TB archive, sharing photos with family and friends and keeping my personal files in the cloud and synched across computers. I used a Synology to backup the archive from the computer locally to the Synology and offsite to google drive. But here's the thing, I'm a somewhat PC and Mac-savvy technical guy, but purely GUI. Is moving to Nextcloud on my synology going to be as easy as moving to google drive? I'm a little scared TBH. There are so many ways of installing next cloud and doing 3-2-1 backups and I don't have time to handle a little error on a Synology destroying my whole workflow for days.. Someone give me hope.