You're very welcome. It's good to be able to show real-world examples so people are less skeptical. A lot of people won't read a deep technical document describing printer surveillance, but they will read a paragraph excerpt from Wikipedia.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And they will argue that whistleblowing is actually a crime, because, uhm, it's, uhm, yeah it's illegal! And if it's illegal to be a good citizen, then this is totally warranted and no scandal at all, because only bad people do illegal things!

Many people are willing to sacrifice a lot of people for the tiny chance of maybe stopping a criminal once.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Actual opinion some people hold: "We need to make end-to-end encryption illegal to stop criminals"

How on earth is that meant to work? Criminals are criminals. They don't care whether or not it's illegal. At this point, just declare all crime illegal and call it a day. At least that won't be a huge infringement on honest people's privacy and security.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait. Crime is not illegal? No wonder all those criminals are doing it.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

A recent anti-organised crime operation set up a fake end to end encrypted phones and sold them to criminals, capturing all calls, messages, and internet traffic

If they hadn't, a real version of the same would have been supplied to criminals, since it's easy and cheap

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

A lot of people won't read a deep technical document describing printer surveillance, but

…if you meme it, they will come!