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[–] Zron@lemmy.world 55 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is false advertising.

Starlink was the first company and product designed to intentionally increase space junk.

Although not needing to provide and internet connection does mean FragSat is a cheaper and more superior product.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Starlink to date has not had any collisions, and it saved me from Comcast.

[–] V0lD@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Pretty sure the joke is aimed at cubesats

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Launch a constellation of satellites that provide fibre optic levels of Internet service and cell signal anywhere on the globe.

Zron : nyeeh! Space junk! Elongated Muskrat!

You're utterly cooked, buddy.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but who wants a Nazi as their ISP?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Are we doing the "everything I don't like is Hitler" thing now?

I don't like the guy either, but let's judge the technology on it's own merits, shall we?

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The guy used Xitter, a platform he owns, to promote a transphobic documentary made by Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh's Xitter bio famously begins with the words "theocratic fascist", or, y'know, Nazi. If Xitter has been used to push anti-trans propaganda made by Nazis, who says Starlink won't? I don't think Musk gives a xit about net neutrality.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are we doing the "I defend nazis but try to falsify my stance by pretending to not like them" thing now?

Guy bought a platform to elevate nazi speech among other forms of hate, and uses his position to elevate it while banning those who speak against said speech. If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck - you don't need a 5 page thesis and notarized notice of allegiance to the third reich to tell its a duck. 🤷

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Facebones@reddthat.com -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let's all keep this civil, please. No need for hair pulling and name calling.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why didn't he get griped at about it too? 🤔

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

You're the one who went off on an unprompted rant about nazis, that's why.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Several things can be true at the same time.

Starlink exists to give SpaceX nongovernment launches to boost its numbers and make it look good as a stock.

It also happens to provide a service at what is almost certainly a loss, considering each satellite only lasts a few years and thus requires a constant stream of replacements to be launched.

It also happens to fill the sky with a bunch of garbage that will inevitably hit something and lead to a spray of even more garbage.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It also happens to provide a service at what is almost certainly a loss, considering each satellite only lasts a few years and thus requires a constant stream of replacements to be launched.

OK, so you do get they're in decaying orbits. Good.

It also happens to fill the sky with a bunch of garbage that will inevitably hit something and lead to a spray of even more garbage.

What garbage? You just said they decay. Be consistent. There's plenty of reason to not like them. Kessler syndrome isn't one.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What garbage? You just said they decay. Be consistent. There’s plenty of reason to not like them. Kessler syndrome isn’t one.

All that needs to happen is that 2 Starlink satellites collide, and then the debris won't stay at the same elevation. It will still be on a decaying orbit, but it might hit something on a more stable orbit further up before it comes down. And the debris from the second collision won't come down to earth anytime soon.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

Sure, if a collision happens (unlikely while under control) then another collision happens (also unlikely, space is big) then sure some debris could go into a non-decaying orbit. That's true for all satellites. Should we just not launch any because it could make things harder for other satellites?

Starlink is very unlikely to cause debris, and any debris it may cause, if any happens at all, is unlikely to cause any future problems because odds are it'd decay even faster. In the unlikely event everything goes wrong, it could cause minor issues, the same as any satellite.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Pretty much every service in the tech industry runs at a loss for a long time, that's nothing special.