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Don't get me wrong, I will probably cave at the last minute and vote SNP again for a number of reasons. Mostly, being supportive of a number of their progressive policies that I have benefited from over the years, and also because my constituency is a two horse race between them and the Tories who I will never vote for. Though the SNP are probably now at their lowest point in years since they finally managed to oust Sturgeon.

I will also never vote Labour, they have no identity here and during the 2019 election they were campaigning for the Tories to oust SNP here, so 100% fuck them too.

I once voted for Lib Dem and we ended up with the catastrophic Clegg/Cameron coalition (though due to FPTP my vote didn't matter there.)

I would like to vote for Green, but it would be a wasted vote here.

It's just bizarre to me that Westminster's voting system is such that a vast majority of votes in the UK are binned, how is this considered normal?

Sorry for the rant, but I am just so incredibly disillusioned with politics in this shitehole of a country but absolutely refuse to be passive about it since that is what they want us to be.

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[–] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 28 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Lol no matter what your stance is, not voting is the worst possible thing you can do.

[–] K3zi4@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Every spoiled ballot has to be counted and reviewed, a spoiled ballot is a "this is a person that took the time to turn up to vote and we didn't manage to win them over."

There is a massive difference between spoiling a ballot and just not voting.

[–] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 12 points 7 months ago

I don't think a spoiled ballot sends as strong a message as you think it does.

[–] Devi@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago

They don't get counted at all. There is stats for spoiled ballots but that is every ballot that isn't counted in the election, so say someone ticked two boxes instead of one, or if they used a pencil and it got rubbed away before counting, they all go together and nothing happens with them.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 0 points 7 months ago

Not voting isn't doing.

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Spoiling your ballot is voting - that’s the point.

[–] Saff@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But it’s voting for nobody. So it doesn’t actually count for anything. The only way it would, would be if “spoiled ballots” “wins” by having the most, then ever running MP in that constituency has to step down, be replaced by someone else and the election re-ran. But that will never ever happen so it’s futile to spoil imo.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

I think that's a myth.

If spoiled ballots "win" nothing happens and the person with the most votes is elected anyway.

There's no way to tell the difference between accidentally spoiling a ballot and a protest vote, so they just don't mean anything.

If you're hoping that politicians will feel enough shame to step down if no one votes for them, then I'd like to introduce you to our last two prime ministers.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

the worst possible thing you can do.

lol, it really fucking isn't (and I can't even imagine being privileged enough, nor ignorant enough of how politics work, to even come up with that line)