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On the bunker drill, the former minister said that all secretaries of state - not just defence - have a desk and a bed ready for them in a bunker.

This is not so they are able to survive a nuclear attack "for re-populating our islands after the apocalypse" but "because their departments are as integral to the war effort as the MoD".

Because it's precisely these politicians who should be repopulating after a potential apocalypse /s

Alternate title: "Former military guy can only think about conflict and makes war mongering comments to scare politicians and population"

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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

It would be nice if politicians could understand the cost of war at a soldier's level. Politicians should feel a war; not just sit in their protected and lavish war room barking orders and treating lives as meaningless numbers.

[–] TheRecruiter@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Exactly, those who make the decisions to send soldiers to war should be sent to fight themselves, if not gun in hand at least as front line commanders or something so they feel the same danger and see the same horrors as the human fodder they so happily throw at their "enemies"

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

U need to stop thinking of politicians as people its better to think of them as representatives for a specific interest group (ur vote, everyone else's vote, and corruption) they make no decisions they simply choose which decision makes the majority of who they represent the happiest.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So you are saying we should have a people's representation lobby group and bribe them to do our interests. It does make sense in a negotiation sense, even though it sounds very annoying.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's what democracy is supposed to be.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not really, but i guess that's the difference between ideals and reality. So, who is founding this group?

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In the ideal the politicians represent the people. I'm reality it seems they represent whatever gets them money/power.

So, who is founding this group?

That's the good part only the wealthy corporations can afford such things.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

I mean true enough but that has nothing to do with preparing for war. To put it simply there's a reason, say, Japan has an army despite their constitution denouncing war.

[–] eardon@lemmy.ca -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It would be better if soldiers could recognize when they're being used as pawns vs. actually fighting for what they believe in.

Ukraine never had a chance without foreign troops on the ground.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

a soldier is a pawn by definition