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One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends -- not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive -- to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don't body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There's no way to draw a line that says "you can't like adult people that look like X" without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

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[–] Fal@yiffit.net 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If the community in question was adorableporn, then this whole thing is crazy. No one in that community looks even remotely underage.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

B-but only teenagers can have braces! /s

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

My 52-yo Filipina gf has lower braces, despite having perfect teeth. When I asked when she was getting them off, she was giggling uncontrollably, "It's a, uh, fashion thing in the Philippines!"

Who knew?!

[–] PubSubSwitch@lemmynsfw.com 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think folks forget just how young people in their early 20s can look.

[–] NekoRiv@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 year ago

I think TV just skewed how high schoolers and middle schoolers look to the general populace because, at least back in the day, a lot of them were played by grown ass adults.

[–] Platinum_rain@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago

And how mature some teenagers, especially those past 15, can look. And like NekoRiv said, Dawson Casting isn't helping...

[–] Bombina@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Fal@yiffit.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just looked at that one too. While the name is unfortunate, no one in there looks remotely underage either.

[–] Bombina@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago

Totally. It's just vaguely DDLG stuff

[–] junesporn@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was my assumption too, i chimed in with maybe a similar opinion to this blahaj.zone mod when that community asked for dialogue. And the people there gave pretty good reasoning that im not mad at. I maybe don't want to see the community, but I don't think it makes this instance bad?

[–] Bombina@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

I mean I also really don't want see that community and I do find it more offensive than the deluge of celebrity communities.

That being said, I don't quite see how it makes this instance bad either. My 'normal' account's instance also defederated a while back, so I just ended up with this as my sex-related alt.