Then this goes back to my point of "if you can't prove your own sentience to yourself, maybe that's worth digging into." The very baseline of philosophy is "I think therefore I am." It's the one thing Descartes thought one can know with certainty. If you question even that about yourself, it might imply an abnormal psychology or that you're overthinking things to a point of pedantry that even a 17th century philosopher would say is "a bit much."

[–] 4z01235@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum#Critique

[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, rebuttals by a bunch of philosophers who, like you, can't even accept their own existence or get hung up on the definition of "I" and "think". "I" doesn't need to be one's physical body as one perceives it. "I" could be a brain in a jar or a computer generating an entire simulated universe or a bored deity. But something that you are, or at least I am, is producing thought about itself and its input stimuli.

Anyone who can't even accept the fact that, by thinking, they must exist in some capacity in order to be capable of thinking, is being obstinate for obstinance's sake. That isn't a philosophical question. It's refusing the answer provided by your own experience in order to be the most pedantic person in the room. So, basically 20th-21st century philosophy.

Or maybe you really aren't sentient and I'm wasting my time with an NPC.

[–] 4z01235@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"Agree with me, or see a psychiatrist, or you're an actual NPC" is an exceedingly shitty debate tactic.

Enjoy.

[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Your entire argument is as clever as a toddler repeatedly asking "why?" to everything, not because they're genuinely curious, but because they realized it gets a rise out of the adults in the room.

So, yes, if you really can't grasp that by thinking you must exist in some form, then I can only conclude that you A) really don't exist, B) are suffering from some psychotic malady, or C) are just a troll arguing in bad faith to annoy the grown-ups.